I don't think Tivo is Television. Classical television cannot not be automaticaly stored, retrieved, scanned and viewed out of order (this can be manually performmed with programming recorders -- but just about anything can be put into a manual process.) So I think this is an intermediate medium to Blogging. I'd call it a Tivo medium with the iPod containing similar capacity. It lacks the full two way interaction of Blogs, but contains the automatic storage, scanning and retrieval capability.
-- Enric -======- http://www.cirne.com Determine Media --- In [email protected], "Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We're speaking past eachother, I think. There are two kinds of > "videoblogging" - for the sake of the argument we can call one > videoblogging and the other video podcasting. > > The first includes aspects of the blog. It's a remediation of the blog and > tv (among others). Think McLuhan. The latter is a transparent remediation > of tv. It's faithful to tv. > > The difference is easiest to see in reading patterns. Videoblogging are > read like blogs, they are small pieces loosely joined (by the reader). The > latter is read like tv, one at the time. Seperated, passively. > > Read this for an intermission <URL: > http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/archives/2005/12/24/tv-killed-voggings-star/ > > > > When I say embedded video gives the best reading experience for web video, > I am talking about videoblogging. A blog entry is *not* the frames that > make up the video. It is also the surrounding blog post, the comments, the > title, the sidebar, the entire network around it (inbound and outbound > links). That is what makes blogging different from old media. When you > take the video and move it to an iPod it may be the same frames, but it is > not the same Work - it is the same video, but a new media and different > content. > > I make videoblogging, and my personaly interest is videoblogging. Content > that works well in a videoblogging setting is different from content that > works well in a video podcasting setting. Just as there is content which > works better on tv than in radio (a boxing match comes to mind). Thinking > they're the same is naive. > > - Andreas > > PS. Did evilvlog begin censoring itself? > > > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:33:34 +0100, Michael Meiser > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Andreas, I understand your perspective, and respect and find your > > methods interesting, but there's thousands and thousands of people > > who disagree with your idea of best practices. > > > > Alternatively... I think getting all my vlogs automatically > > downloaded and synced to my video ipod is the best thing ever. I > > watch them on my TV while working on my laptop, and through mefeedia > > am able to easily work, or if I see something interesting... quickly > > find the original post and follow up on it. The disconnect that I > > thought would happen do to putting videos on TV has NOT happened in > > fact... I find i can comment and follow more vlogs. If I miss > > something I just hit the pause button or rewind on the iPod... if I > > am bored with a clip I skip it... All the while I can follow along > > on mefeedia on my laptop... tagging things, marking favorites... > > following up on links from Steve G.'s Vlog soup.. or rocketboom's > > links. All we need to do in my opinion is make it even easier to > > follow along through mefeedia with what's happening on the TV by > > improving our web based queue and our RSS queue which plays back > > through the video ipod. > > > > Finally, I also like embedded flash for in browser play back, as > > probably does Jay.. that's not the problem... the problem is when > > there is NO alternative link. It drives me up the wall. How can I > > download it... how can I rip it to my ipod, how can I share it with a > > friend... No this sort of flash playback is not going away... but > > video blogging is at least putting a serious dampner on DRM'd and > > locked down files like this and encouraging more openess and > > portability... which means more flexibility, increased accessibility, > > and enhanced useability. > > > > -Mike > > > > On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:49 AM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: > > > > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:42:08 +0100, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> i wonder if these Embedded Flash players will last? > >> i obviously keep seeing aggregated video as being the way to go. > >> all the video i watch ive downloaded through subscription....not gone > >> to web pages to watch Flash videos. > > > > Embedded video is the best viewing experience for web video. It won't go > > away. For blog entries that mixes video with other forms (text, images) > > embedded video is much nicer. And it actually fits into the web context. > > > > I've never downloaded a video through subscription. I will start once I > > find videos I watch like a watch tv... passively. When I find videos > > where > > I don't want to (or can't) be a part of a dialogue around the videos. > > > > I use RSS to be notified if a blog has updated. It's great for that. > > > > - Andreas > > > > -- > <URL:http://www.solitude.dk/> > Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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