Are static thumbnails any good for video really anyway? Are there any examples of, or people working on, something more than single frame thumbnails? Ive been pondering whether a better way of previewing video exists, I dont know as it does, but Im thinking about it anyway.
Im also very excited about future much richer & nicer user interfaces. Microsoft stuff like WPF, WPF/E, AJAX/DHTML in general, and Apple stuff like Core Animation, are technologies that may help this a bit. Will certainly need thumbnails or preview animations of videos to make this experience decent, I hadnt realised that thumbnail in RSS stuff was still such an issue - big shame, doubt I can be much use helping with this, but full support to anybody who can, please :) Is there any need to provide more than one thumbnail for a post in the feed? Different resolutions etc? Is there anything in RSS at the moment for attaching artwork or icon to the whole feed (eg show branding? Any merit whatsoever for enabling people to sspecify a graphic for license info - eg is there any sense whatsoever to having people do their creative commons stuff as a seperate video animation or still? I was just musing about alternative video aggregators of the future and how they could display the license info for each video in s small seperate window? OK thats probably a silly idea, I dunno. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In [email protected], "billshackelford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree.. mediaRSS already exists and is supported by many. > > --- In [email protected], sull <sulleleven@> wrote: > > > > nah. > > encourage mediaRSS spec for thumbnails. > > > > and consider using blip feeds (blip users). > > > > sull > > > > > > On 2/8/07, Mike Meiser <groups-yahoo-com@> wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, maybe we should skip the whole overriding media microfotmat > > > thing... > > > and in true microformats style solve the simplest and most necissary > > > problem > > > first. > > > > > > I.E. <img src="" rel=thumbnail> > > > > > > It's actually hard for me to believe people aren't actually using this > > > somewhere in the RSS-o-sphere. Has anyone seen anything. > > > > > > It perfectly in keeping with other specs like rel=tag, rel=enclosure, > > > rel=payment and a host of others. > > > > > > It will also work with perfectly with other forms of media feeds like > > > audio, > > > and photocasts as well. It's a univeral element. > > > > > > Any objections to this? > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > > On 2/8/07, duthied2004 <duthied@ <duthied%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey all. > > > > > > > > I've been out of the loop on this list for some time and have tried to > > > > catch up on this, so forgive me if stuff has been said/asked before.... > > > > > > > > But, I'd love to hear how people are setting the thumbnails for their > > > > entries....do you use mediarss on your site, is it only in the > > > > 'description' of the post, in a thumbnail element in the item > > > > elements? As Mike mentioned it's a hodge-podge currently. > > > > > > > > Glad to see the same names on here still, as well as many more new ones. > > > > > > > > -Devlon > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > groups-yahoo-com@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There is also a larger issue Bill which Josh touched on. > > > > > > > > > > The general problem is that while 90% (or some otherwise very hight > > > > > percent of vloggers) have thumbnails in their posts they are not > > > > > "semantically" specified. This is to say they are not specified in > > > > > standard way which can be recognized by aggregators and search sites > > > > > like Fireant, vlogdi, mefeedia and others. For example... eclosures > > > > > can be specified in your blog post among other ways by a microformat > > > > > standard "rel=enclosure". There is no standards for huge amounts of > > > > > supporting meta infromation like thumbnails, i.e. there is no > > > > > "rel=thumnail". > > > > > > > > > > We're working on mechanisms not only to better identify thumbnails in > > > > > blog posts, among other things, by creating a new media Microformat. > > > > > It should not only have a tremendous immediate impact for people who > > > > > use services like blip, feedburner, mefeedia, fireant and others, but > > > > > it should also put this control into YOUR hands if you like when > > > > > you're writing a blog post. > > > > > > > > > > P.S. Josh, I hope you'll collaborate on this media microformat as well > > > > > as sharing other ideas on sharing thumbnail information. > > > > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/07, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Josh, I haven't checked that feature in like a year, so it may > > > > have > > > > > > stopped working.. let Frank know if you have any questions about > > > > that, I'm > > > > > > sure he'd be happy to get it running again.. all my fault! > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/07, Joshua Kinberg <jkinberg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We're currently working on this issue and plan to have a big new > > > > > > > release of the FireAnt website in February. This new release will > > > > > > > support the Media RSS namespace for thumbnails. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, we can grab thumbnails from blog posts if they are > > > > included > > > > > > > in the link to the video enclosure file like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <a href="http://link/to/video.mov"; rel="enclosure"><img > > > > > > > src="http://link/to/thumbnail/image.jpg"; /></a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We also have the ability to get thumbnail images from MeFeedia, > > > > but it > > > > > > > seems that MeFeedia may have disabled this feature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps explain... please stay tuned for our new website > > > > > > > update that will address this along with many other bug fixes > > > > and new > > > > > > > features. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > Josh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://FireAnt.tv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/07, billshackelford > > > > > > <bshackelford@<bshackelford%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > My videos do not have thumbnails on FireAnt. It seems they do > > > not > > > > > > > utilize the Yahoo Media > > > > > > > > RSS namespace attributes. Is there a reason why? If there is a > > > > legal > > > > > > > reason.. why don't they > > > > > > > > just come up with their own namespace? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe I read something about FireAnt getting thumbnails from > > > > > > > Mefeedia but my > > > > > > > > thumbnails show up Mefeedia fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if there is something I can do to have my > > > > thumbnails > > > > > > > show up on FireAnt? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my channel on FireAnt: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > billshackelford.com podcast > > > > > > > > http://fireant.tv/directory/channel/22981 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Find 10000s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com > > > > > > my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ > > > > > > my job: http://petervandijck.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sull > > http://vlogdir.com (a project) > > http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) > > http://interdigitate.com (otherly) > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
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