Agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed........and agreed :) We are currently rounding out where we check for thumbs.
-- Thanks, Devlon Duthie http://devlonduthie.com Find great independent video: http://mefeedia.com sull wrote: > Well, the truth is that both approaches should be used. > So if the effort can encapsulate supporting mediaRSS and rel=thumbnail then > we'll be in great shape. > > Wordpress etc should natively support mediaRSS output. But a plugin is a > good start. It could insert the rel=thumbnail and the feed could grab the > same image for media:thumbnail. > > Feedburner needs to improve their support for thumbnails. > > Blip users should seriously consider using blip feeds instead of feedburner. > > Aggregators should do checks for media:thumbnail and alternatively, > rel="thumbnail". > > Sull > > On 2/9/07, Devlon Duthie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Could you expand that a bit? >> >> How easy is it for a layman vlogger to set a thumb in their post, then >> have it come out in the media:thumb element on their feed? I am not >> being sarcastic, I haven't played with mediaRSS as a content creator and >> am curious about the workflow...I'm still green in the mediaRSS world. >> >> Seems like until everyone adopts mediaRSS, or whatever comes out in the >> meantime, adding 'rel=thumbnail' to an image tag is easy enough...even >> for the layman. >> >> -- >> Devlon >> >> >> billshackelford wrote: >> >>> I agree.. mediaRSS already exists and is supported by many. >>> >>> --- In [email protected] <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, >>> >> sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>> nah. >>>> encourage mediaRSS spec for thumbnails. >>>> >>>> and consider using blip feeds (blip users). >>>> >>>> sull >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/8/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yeah, maybe we should skip the whole overriding media microfotmat >>>>> thing... >>>>> and in true microformats style solve the simplest and most necissary >>>>> problem >>>>> first. >>>>> >>>>> I.E. <img src="" rel=thumbnail> >>>>> >>>>> It's actually hard for me to believe people aren't actually using this >>>>> somewhere in the RSS-o-sphere. Has anyone seen anything. >>>>> >>>>> It perfectly in keeping with other specs like rel=tag, rel=enclosure, >>>>> rel=payment and a host of others. >>>>> >>>>> It will also work with perfectly with other forms of media feeds like >>>>> audio, >>>>> and photocasts as well. It's a univeral element. >>>>> >>>>> Any objections to this? >>>>> >>>>> -Mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2/8/07, duthied2004 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <duthied%40gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hey all. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been out of the loop on this list for some time and have tried >>>>>> >> to >> >>>>>> catch up on this, so forgive me if stuff has been said/asked >>>>>> >> before.... >> >>>>>> But, I'd love to hear how people are setting the thumbnails for their >>>>>> entries....do you use mediarss on your site, is it only in the >>>>>> 'description' of the post, in a thumbnail element in the item >>>>>> elements? As Mike mentioned it's a hodge-podge currently. >>>>>> >>>>>> Glad to see the same names on here still, as well as many more new >>>>>> >> ones. >> >>>>>> -Devlon >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- In >>>>>> [email protected]<videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com><videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> groups-yahoo-com@ wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> There is also a larger issue Bill which Josh touched on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The general problem is that while 90% (or some otherwise very hight >>>>>>> percent of vloggers) have thumbnails in their posts they are not >>>>>>> "semantically" specified. This is to say they are not specified in >>>>>>> standard way which can be recognized by aggregators and search sites >>>>>>> like Fireant, vlogdi, mefeedia and others. For example... eclosures >>>>>>> can be specified in your blog post among other ways by a microformat >>>>>>> standard "rel=enclosure". There is no standards for huge amounts of >>>>>>> supporting meta infromation like thumbnails, i.e. there is no >>>>>>> "rel=thumnail". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We're working on mechanisms not only to better identify thumbnails >>>>>>> >> in >> >>>>>>> blog posts, among other things, by creating a new media Microformat. >>>>>>> It should not only have a tremendous immediate impact for people who >>>>>>> use services like blip, feedburner, mefeedia, fireant and others, >>>>>>> >> but >> >>>>>>> it should also put this control into YOUR hands if you like when >>>>>>> you're writing a blog post. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P.S. Josh, I hope you'll collaborate on this media microformat as >>>>>>> >> well >> >>>>>>> as sharing other ideas on sharing thumbnail information. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peace, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Mike >>>>>>> mmeiser.com/blog >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/19/07, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck@> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey Josh, I haven't checked that feature in like a year, so it may >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> have >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> stopped working.. let Frank know if you have any questions about >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> that, I'm >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> sure he'd be happy to get it running again.. all my fault! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/19/07, Joshua Kinberg <jkinberg@> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Bill, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We're currently working on this issue and plan to have a big new >>>>>>>>> release of the FireAnt website in February. This new release will >>>>>>>>> support the Media RSS namespace for thumbnails. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Currently, we can grab thumbnails from blog posts if they are >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> included >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> in the link to the video enclosure file like this: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <a href="http://link/to/video.mov"; rel="enclosure"><img >>>>>>>>> src="http://link/to/thumbnail/image.jpg"; /></a> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We also have the ability to get thumbnail images from MeFeedia, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> but it >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> seems that MeFeedia may have disabled this feature. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hope that helps explain... please stay tuned for our new website >>>>>>>>> update that will address this along with many other bug fixes >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> and new >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> features. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> Josh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://FireAnt.tv >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/19/07, billshackelford >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <bshackelford@<bshackelford%40gmail.com>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My videos do not have thumbnails on FireAnt. It seems they do >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> not >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> utilize the Yahoo Media >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> RSS namespace attributes. Is there a reason why? If there is a >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> legal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> reason.. why don't they >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> just come up with their own namespace? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I believe I read something about FireAnt getting thumbnails from >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mefeedia but my >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> thumbnails show up Mefeedia fine. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if there is something I can do to have my >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> thumbnails >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> show up on FireAnt? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here is my channel on FireAnt: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> billshackelford.com podcast >>>>>>>>>> http://fireant.tv/directory/channel/22981 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Find 10000s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com >>>>>>>> my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ >>>>>>>> my job: http://petervandijck.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sull >>>> http://vlogdir.com (a project) >>>> http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) >>>> http://interdigitate.com (otherly) >>>> >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > >
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