> class="media-thumbnail" ? Yes, I think a class attribute on the image is good -- all that is needed is standardization on the class name.
Also, it would make sense if the image were contained within some type of block that refers to the video, like this: <a href="http://link/to/video.mov"; rel="enclosure"> <img src="http://link/to/thumbnail.jpg"; class="media-thumbnail" /> </a> That way, you would know which video the thumbnail image is referring to. my .02 cents... -Josh On 2/9/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/9/07, billshackelford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree.. mediaRSS already exists and is supported by many. > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > nah. > > > encourage mediaRSS spec for thumbnails. > > > > > > and consider using blip feeds (blip users). > > > > > > sull > > > > > You're both COMPLETELY missing the point. > > This is NOT an alternative to mediaRSS. It's not an either or thing. > When you're composing a blog post you can't very well mark something > up in mediaRSS because you can only markup mediaRSS if you're actually > coding your own RSS feeds. You need a way to be able to TELL > wordpress... or feedburner or whatever is creating your RSS feed... > heh this image, it is the thumbnail, please put it in the thumbnail > field of the RSS feed. > > Secondly... Sull, people cannot just go and use their blip feeds > instead of their feedburner feeds. Because their blogs are far more > than just videos from blip... their blogs contain text posts, and > blogged posts from flickr, and posts that are reblogged from others. > That makes about as much sense as telling them just to use their > delicious feed, or flickr feed instead of their blog. > > Maybe my post was to long or something, but I'm sort of disapointed in > the responses. > > Other than the fact that there is no "rel" atribute to <img> there's > no reason not to do this. > > Perhaps andreas could suggest and alternative to "rel", or perhaps I'd > like to suggest playing the devils advocate, does it really matter if > there's no rel attribute to <img src>? What's wrong with extending > it? It guarantees there will be no conflicts, and it's in keeping > with other standards like relTag, relNoFollow, relEnclosure and many > others. > > Again just to play devils advocate... but what's wrong with extending > HTML with a rel standard? > > If that is evil incarnate what other choices do we have? > > class="media-thumbnail" ? > > I think this is already getting to convoluted... we need something the > everyday people can understand... getting people to make the jump from > rel= to class= is a big step to ask thousands of people to remember... > these are not coders they're bloggers. > > -Mike > mefeedia.com > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > > > > > On 2/8/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yeah, maybe we should skip the whole overriding media microfotmat > > > > thing... > > > > and in true microformats style solve the simplest and most necissary > > > > problem > > > > first. > > > > > > > > I.E. <img src="" rel=thumbnail> > > > > > > > > It's actually hard for me to believe people aren't actually using this > > > > somewhere in the RSS-o-sphere. Has anyone seen anything. > > > > > > > > It perfectly in keeping with other specs like rel=tag, rel=enclosure, > > > > rel=payment and a host of others. > > > > > > > > It will also work with perfectly with other forms of media feeds like > > > > audio, > > > > and photocasts as well. It's a univeral element. > > > > > > > > Any objections to this? > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/8/07, duthied2004 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <duthied%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey all. > > > > > > > > > > I've been out of the loop on this list for some time and have tried to > > > > > catch up on this, so forgive me if stuff has been said/asked > > before.... > > > > > > > > > > But, I'd love to hear how people are setting the thumbnails for their > > > > > entries....do you use mediarss on your site, is it only in the > > > > > 'description' of the post, in a thumbnail element in the item > > > > > elements? As Mike mentioned it's a hodge-podge currently. > > > > > > > > > > Glad to see the same names on here still, as well as many more new > > ones. > > > > > > > > > > -Devlon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > groups-yahoo-com@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also a larger issue Bill which Josh touched on. > > > > > > > > > > > > The general problem is that while 90% (or some otherwise very hight > > > > > > percent of vloggers) have thumbnails in their posts they are not > > > > > > "semantically" specified. This is to say they are not specified in > > > > > > standard way which can be recognized by aggregators and search sites > > > > > > like Fireant, vlogdi, mefeedia and others. For example... eclosures > > > > > > can be specified in your blog post among other ways by a microformat > > > > > > standard "rel=enclosure". There is no standards for huge amounts of > > > > > > supporting meta infromation like thumbnails, i.e. there is no > > > > > > "rel=thumnail". > > > > > > > > > > > > We're working on mechanisms not only to better identify thumbnails > > in > > > > > > blog posts, among other things, by creating a new media Microformat. > > > > > > It should not only have a tremendous immediate impact for people who > > > > > > use services like blip, feedburner, mefeedia, fireant and others, > > but > > > > > > it should also put this control into YOUR hands if you like when > > > > > > you're writing a blog post. > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. Josh, I hope you'll collaborate on this media microformat as > > well > > > > > > as sharing other ideas on sharing thumbnail information. > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/07, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Josh, I haven't checked that feature in like a year, so it may > > > > > have > > > > > > > stopped working.. let Frank know if you have any questions about > > > > > that, I'm > > > > > > > sure he'd be happy to get it running again.. all my fault! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/07, Joshua Kinberg <jkinberg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We're currently working on this issue and plan to have a big new > > > > > > > > release of the FireAnt website in February. This new release > > will > > > > > > > > support the Media RSS namespace for thumbnails. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, we can grab thumbnails from blog posts if they are > > > > > included > > > > > > > > in the link to the video enclosure file like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <a href="http://link/to/video.mov"; rel="enclosure"><img > > > > > > > > src="http://link/to/thumbnail/image.jpg"; /></a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We also have the ability to get thumbnail images from MeFeedia, > > > > > but it > > > > > > > > seems that MeFeedia may have disabled this feature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps explain... please stay tuned for our new website > > > > > > > > update that will address this along with many other bug fixes > > > > > and new > > > > > > > > features. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Josh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://FireAnt.tv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/19/07, billshackelford > > > > > > > <bshackelford@<bshackelford%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > My videos do not have thumbnails on FireAnt. It seems they do > > > > not > > > > > > > > utilize the Yahoo Media > > > > > > > > > RSS namespace attributes. Is there a reason why? If there is a > > > > > legal > > > > > > > > reason.. why don't they > > > > > > > > > just come up with their own namespace? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe I read something about FireAnt getting thumbnails > > from > > > > > > > > Mefeedia but my > > > > > > > > > thumbnails show up Mefeedia fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if there is something I can do to have my > > > > > thumbnails > > > > > > > > show up on FireAnt? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my channel on FireAnt: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > billshackelford.com podcast > > > > > > > > > http://fireant.tv/directory/channel/22981 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Find 10000s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com > > > > > > > my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ > > > > > > > my job: http://petervandijck.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sull > > > http://vlogdir.com (a project) > > > http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) > > > http://interdigitate.com (otherly) > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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