--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:41 PM, ractalfece <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Brook Hinton" <bhinton@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the link, John, I will look forward to seeing it when....
> >> if.... it ever finishes reaching my computer.
> >>
> >> "> But what's wrong with being an avant-guard artist?"
> >>
> >> What does making something difficult for people who aren't
immersed in
> >> the tech world to obtain have to do with being an avant-garde artist?
> >> Most avant-garde artists spend a lot of effort fighting to get their
> >> work seen, not hiding it.
> >>
> >
> > I don't claim to be an avant-garde artist.  And I don't take the word
> > artist lightly.  I was responding to Verdi's line:
> >
> > "It's a little like the poor avant-guard artist who complains that
> > nobody (i.e. the "mainstream") understands his work."
> >
> > I get what he's saying but that line doesn't have any sting to it.  If
> > someone called me a poor avant-guard artist, I'd say thank you.
> >
> 
> 
> Okay, let me try it again. I guess it's my personal pet peeve when,
> for example, a person makes esoteric work and then complains that most
> people don't understand it. I was trying to relate (unsuccessfully)
> that idea to John's complaint about his audience. If you don't want to
> make mainstream stuff, fine but don't complain when the mainstream
> doesn't want to watch. The cool thing is that the things I do that
> might draw a couple of dozen people (if that) to a live event here in
> San Antonio can have an audience of thousands+ on the internet. I also
> think that, given a bit of time, your videos will get the "right"
> audience - the one you're making them for. I don't think there is a
> need to put up a barrier.
>


I agree about people who complain about not being mainstream.

But when you are an underground artist and your stuff goes mainstream
and you're not getting paid for it.  Well, then I think it's time to
start throwing your weight around.  

I know some would argue I'm not mainstream enough.  Or maybe that I
never was an underground artist.  Because it's true I naively bought
the "online video revolution" hype.  The new video deals with how I
became disillusioned.  And it offers a solution.  

But maybe it won't work out the way I want it to work out.  That's
life.  I've got some other ideas up my sleeve.  Gotta check out the
legality first. 

I used to think I had to bend myself to become successful at the
business of online video.  But maybe business can be approached like
an art form.  You know, like Robin Marks at the carnival. 

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> Now if the idea is riff on
> old-school-word-of-mouth-punk-rock-zine-diy-distribution and to
> promote bittorrent because you like it, then who am I to argue with
> that? In that context it's fun.
> 
> Verdi
>

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