2010/8/7 Tony Mechelynck <[email protected]>: > On 04/08/10 10:42, H Xu wrote: >> >> On 2010/8/4 14:00, Ricky J. Wu wrote: >>> >>> On 8月4日, 下午1时56分, "Ricky J. Wu"<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many people quit using vim because they think vim is not as powerful >>>>>>> as emacs. >>>> >>>> Learn vim need patients and times, and also the plugin dose. >>>> The more configurable the system is, the more powerful feature you >>>> get. >>>> You might need learn and configure plugin by yourself and find whether >>>> is it fit. >>> >>> There is a possibility, an integrated and configured plugin package >>> can let one use vim easier, but just for lazy people. >>> >> Hello, >> >> Of course it's for lazy people. Lazy people don't want to spend time >> on this. >> >> Regards, >> Hong Xu >> 2010/8/4 >> > > Well, with or without an extra bloatful package of plugins (80% of which > I'll never use), lazy people will never have the full power of Vim at their > fingertips, because the learning curve is not steep but long. If you want to > use Vim well, you *have* to spend time on it, even if just a little at a > time.
But in total, you can easily spend six months hacking it. In the end you get something far better than vanilla vim or emacs. It works much closer to the speed of thought, and comes closer to getting the computer from fancy filing cabinet to cognitive amplifier. Its just frustrating as hell to know that you've just reinvented a whole pile of things. The plug-ins simply don't solve this problem: each focuses on some single small issue, and you have to tweak them around the edges and create piles of keymaps, commands, and glue functions to get a semi-coherent whole. What I would like to see is something like extended mod packs created by individual users. In this scheme, expert users would somehow publish their entire piles of plugins and glue, together with some explanation of the logic of the whole. New users could bootstrap off these (greatly enhanced) vim versions instead of having to start from scratch. At my last job back when I was an emacs user no one could be convinced to try it until they saw how much all my debugger hacks improved life. Once they tried it they became devoted converts. Its a huge shame that most of the power of vim that comes with the final tweaks is not effectively shared between old and new users. Britton -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php
