Well, I think this should be tempered a bit. The number of subscribers
on Android would have to justify the development and maintenance of
their Android app. Apple would also have to take into account how many
additional iPhones they might sell if Apple Music was only available on
Apple devices. Obviously, Apple thinks putting Apple Music on
competitors devices is the right thing to do, but they didn't seem to
feel this way until they acquired Beats, which already had an app on
Android.
On 30/05/16 17:22, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Exactly, music services obviously want to make sure they achieve the maximum number of
subscribers possible hence it is in Apple's interest to be available on as many platforms
as possible. I don't think you can compare Apple's "walled garden" concept
which they have for iOS and apps with their music service. As Mary pointed out, Apple
Music is available on Android just as there is a google Play Music app for iOS and you
can also get an app for Amazon Music including access to Prime Music for iOS and apps for
pretty much every other music service out there. In this case I don't think you can
accuse Apple of not being open since they could just as well not allow these apps
especially now that they have their own subscription based music service. Of course this
would probably cause a pretty big backlash by users who prefer Google Play Music, Spotify
or another service but who prefer the iOS hardware instead of Android. Amazon Music is
also not a real serious competitior since accordin
g to the app subscription Amazon Prime members have access to "over one million
songs" which is puny compared to the almost 40 million songs offered by most of the
other services. I guess for people who have Amazon Prime it's a bonuss, I don't even know
if Amazon has a subscription based music service only or if it's just what is tied to
Amazon Prime which also is not available in many countries.
Spotify apparently is available on the Amazon Echo via voice commands but only since February this
year so I wouldn't be surprised if Apple may have a "skill" for the Amazon Echo to allow
for controlling Apple Music via Alexa. Googling this topic does result in some articles which say
"does not yet offer Apple Music control via Alexa".
Then of course it would appear that based on some other articles I saw Apple is getting ready to release a
competitor to the echo which is rumoured to include " Next-Gen Natural Language API's" and a camera
for facial recognition. Of course what I would love to see as a Sonos user is something which would allow me
to have complete voice control over my Sonos system. I could then say "Play Dire Straits from Apple
Music in the living room and master bedroom", once it's playing I could then tell Sonos"add kitchen
to the currently playing group"... I guess there is always dreaming.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Subject: Re: iPhone music and Amazon Echo
I agree it would be nice for users if every service was supported equally
across all platforms, but remember, you're talking about companies who are
offering competing services and products. They aren't going to support their
service on a competitors platform unless they think the income from that
service will outweigh potential new sales of their own devices. There's no
imperative that every company has to support every platform.
On 30/05/16 12:26, Mary Otten wrote:
What is missing on the android side for Apple Music experience? Now from an
excess ability point of view, there are some things missing, since there are
some unlabeled buttons there that are not on the iPhone side. So, sloppy
programming by somebody at Apple. And, since, at least from my point of view of
the android interface is not as efficient as Apple, that is also different. But
that is not apples problem. They are going along with the android conventions
which are not as efficient in my view. Anyway, what do you mean when you say
the experience should be the same across all platforms? I assume you're talking
about a general experience, not a specific accessibility one. Somebody else has
already pointed out that other pay services for music or also not integrated
with the Amazon echo. Therefore, in this case, I do believe that some at least
some, of the blame falls squarely on Amazon.
Mary
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On May 30, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Daniel Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
Once again, I disagree Mary. Apple needs to loosen up and let Apple Music and
agree with Amazons Alexa, as well as Google's assistant. Just because the app
is on android doesn't mean that it's the same experience, and it should be
across all platforms.
Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
On May 30, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
You really don't need to mess with the iPhone app to change user profiles. If
you have two different people in your household, both of whom have Amazon
accounts, each can have a profile on your echo. To change profiles, you simply
tell the echo to change from person A to person be profile. The app is
unnecessary.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 30, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Traci Duncan <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all, hope this question is appropriate for this list, because it has to do
with the iPhone native music app.
For those of you that have an Amazon Echo, what is the experience like
listening to your music on your iPhone? The only thing I know for sure is you
can use Echo as a bluetooth speaker. Is there other ways? Do any voice
commands work once iPhone is paired? For example, Alexa play my Mozart
playlist. Will it play it from my music library on my phone? How about Alexa
go to next song.
I’ve been trying to Google this question without much success.
Secondly, I’ve read now you can have 2 user profiles with the Echo. Is this
pretty user friendly via the iPhone? Easy to switch between household members,
etc.
Thanks for the help,
Traci
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