Since Apple bought beats before Apple Music came out, I'm not sure what what you're getting at there. When Apple music was announced, if I'm not mistaken, they said they would be coming to android. It took them a few months to get that done, but eventually they did. It's all about making money. And since Apple music is a paid subscription service, and there are more people on android than there are using Apple iPhones, it makes sense for them to try to get those folks on board. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On May 30, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, I think this should be tempered a bit. The number of subscribers on > Android would have to justify the development and maintenance of their > Android app. Apple would also have to take into account how many additional > iPhones they might sell if Apple Music was only available on Apple devices. > Obviously, Apple thinks putting Apple Music on competitors devices is the > right thing to do, but they didn't seem to feel this way until they acquired > Beats, which already had an app on Android. > >> On 30/05/16 17:22, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> Exactly, music services obviously want to make sure they achieve the maximum >> number of subscribers possible hence it is in Apple's interest to be >> available on as many platforms as possible. I don't think you can compare >> Apple's "walled garden" concept which they have for iOS and apps with their >> music service. As Mary pointed out, Apple Music is available on Android just >> as there is a google Play Music app for iOS and you can also get an app for >> Amazon Music including access to Prime Music for iOS and apps for pretty >> much every other music service out there. In this case I don't think you can >> accuse Apple of not being open since they could just as well not allow these >> apps especially now that they have their own subscription based music >> service. Of course this would probably cause a pretty big backlash by users >> who prefer Google Play Music, Spotify or another service but who prefer the >> iOS hardware instead of Android. Amazon Music is also not a real serious >> competitior since accordin > g to the app subscription Amazon Prime members have access to "over one > million songs" which is puny compared to the almost 40 million songs offered > by most of the other services. I guess for people who have Amazon Prime it's > a bonuss, I don't even know if Amazon has a subscription based music service > only or if it's just what is tied to Amazon Prime which also is not available > in many countries. >> Spotify apparently is available on the Amazon Echo via voice commands but >> only since February this year so I wouldn't be surprised if Apple may have a >> "skill" for the Amazon Echo to allow for controlling Apple Music via Alexa. >> Googling this topic does result in some articles which say "does not yet >> offer Apple Music control via Alexa". >> Then of course it would appear that based on some other articles I saw Apple >> is getting ready to release a competitor to the echo which is rumoured to >> include " Next-Gen Natural Language API's" and a camera for facial >> recognition. Of course what I would love to see as a Sonos user is something >> which would allow me to have complete voice control over my Sonos system. I >> could then say "Play Dire Straits from Apple Music in the living room and >> master bedroom", once it's playing I could then tell Sonos"add kitchen to >> the currently playing group"... I guess there is always dreaming. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 10:39 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: iPhone music and Amazon Echo >> >> I agree it would be nice for users if every service was supported equally >> across all platforms, but remember, you're talking about companies who are >> offering competing services and products. They aren't going to support their >> service on a competitors platform unless they think the income from that >> service will outweigh potential new sales of their own devices. There's no >> imperative that every company has to support every platform. >> >>> On 30/05/16 12:26, Mary Otten wrote: >>> What is missing on the android side for Apple Music experience? Now from >>> an excess ability point of view, there are some things missing, since there >>> are some unlabeled buttons there that are not on the iPhone side. So, >>> sloppy programming by somebody at Apple. And, since, at least from my point >>> of view of the android interface is not as efficient as Apple, that is also >>> different. But that is not apples problem. They are going along with the >>> android conventions which are not as efficient in my view. Anyway, what do >>> you mean when you say the experience should be the same across all >>> platforms? I assume you're talking about a general experience, not a >>> specific accessibility one. Somebody else has already pointed out that >>> other pay services for music or also not integrated with the Amazon echo. >>> Therefore, in this case, I do believe that some at least some, of the blame >>> falls squarely on Amazon. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 30, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Daniel Miller <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Once again, I disagree Mary. Apple needs to loosen up and let Apple Music >>>> and agree with Amazons Alexa, as well as Google's assistant. Just because >>>> the app is on android doesn't mean that it's the same experience, and it >>>> should be across all platforms. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus >>>> >>>>> On May 30, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You really don't need to mess with the iPhone app to change user >>>>> profiles. If you have two different people in your household, both of >>>>> whom have Amazon accounts, each can have a profile on your echo. To >>>>> change profiles, you simply tell the echo to change from person A to >>>>> person be profile. The app is unnecessary. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On May 30, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Traci Duncan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, hope this question is appropriate for this list, because it has >>>>>> to do with the iPhone native music app. >>>>>> >>>>>> For those of you that have an Amazon Echo, what is the experience like >>>>>> listening to your music on your iPhone? The only thing I know for sure >>>>>> is you can use Echo as a bluetooth speaker. Is there other ways? Do >>>>>> any voice commands work once iPhone is paired? For example, Alexa play >>>>>> my Mozart playlist. Will it play it from my music library on my phone? >>>>>> How about Alexa go to next song. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’ve been trying to Google this question without much success. >>>>>> Secondly, I’ve read now you can have 2 user profiles with the Echo. Is >>>>>> this pretty user friendly via the iPhone? 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