Eric, I will gladly take responsibility for the misunderstanding because the Emoji features here would have made it much more clear that my post was intended as a joke had I bothered to include one! 🤔
**************** - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin - “When you are arguing with a fool, make sure he isn't doing the same.” - Contributor Unknown On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote: unfortunately, given some "features" of my psyche, some kinds of humor are not comprehended. :( it's part and parcel of being on the spectrum. It's also probably why it is that I am so good at technology related items. anyway, on the technical end of things, the nearest thing I can figure on the daily (and always inside the same 2 hour window) is that I am seeing a reflection of signal off an aircraft in the aircraft control corridor that exists from here to california. in any case, it makes for an interesting math problem. :) -eric On Apr 13, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Bill Gallik wrote: > That was intended to be a joke! 😯 > > **************** > - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin > - Dear Optimist, Pessimist, and Realist, While you guys were busy arguing > about the glass of water, I drank it! > - Sincerely, The Opportunist > > > On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com > <mailto:eric.o...@icloud.com>> wrote: > > um, that is not exactly the way that GPS works. In order for this "hand off" > to occur, there would also have to be interaction from the device to the sats > and there just isn't the spectrum space or bandwidth to handle several tens > of millions of devices simultaneously. the gPS units on the ground are > strictly receivers. > > -eric > > On Apr 13, 2018, at 7:12 AM, Bill Gallik wrote: > >> Given what Eric wrote about his GPS “speed of light” experience, I have to >> wonder if Eric is not sitting on the cusp of two separate satellites that >> are continually “handing off” his device to each other. Just a thought. >> >> **************** >> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin >> - "A person reveals his character by nothing so clearly as the joke he >> resents." >> - German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799) >> >> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:01 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com >> <mailto:eric.o...@icloud.com> <mailto:eric.o...@icloud.com>> wrote: >> >> you should see what happens with my phone sometimes. I will have it sitting >> here on the desk and all of the sudden, it goes into do not disturb mode. >> >> So, I opened up one of the gPS apps I have (Navigon in this case) and left >> it run. when the Do Not Disturb popped up, I grabbed the phone and checked >> how far it allegedly moved. Here's the real kicker, for 2 minutes, it >> traveled 1000 feet to the west at 672 mph, then proceeded 2000 feet to the >> east at 672 mph and went back and forth like that for 3 minutes. Yet, the >> phone physically didn't move. >> >> The two things I noted about this: >> 1. the direction was always east and west >> 2. the speed of transit is always that of a jet aircraft at full cruise I >> think when it happens again, I am going to call up a friend of mine at sky >> harbor airport ops and find out if there is any air traffic transiting the >> space above me at 30k feet going either east or west I have already checked >> with a ham radio sat tracker program I have here, so I know where the GPS >> sats are in near real time. If what I think is happening really is, then it >> would be possible to know when something is overflying my place. :) >> >> -Eric >> >> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >>> GPS accuracy is going to be about 15 feet at best and sitting inside does >>> not give you good signal quality. The GPS signal is very weak, I read an >>> article once where they compared it with looking at a Christmas light that >>> is up on a satellite in space. Nowadays the receives are very good and >>> sensitive, I remember when I first had my retail store 18 years ago and >>> sold Garmin GPS units you often would not get a signal under heavy tree >>> cover or if you were in a narrow valley and even nowadays the accuracy can >>> go way down the tube if you are in a big city with lots of highrise >>> building around you. GPS is fantastic, but you have to be aware of its >>> limitations and factor them in. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of >>> Donald Raikes >>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:07 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: where am I >>> >>> Sitting at my desk in my house, siri tells me I am next door so how >>> reliable is she ;-) >>> >>> On 4/12/18, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com <mailto:eric.o...@icloud.com>> >>> wrote: >>>> there is an app called "where the hell am I". It's free on the apple >>>> appstore and it works nicely. >>>> >>>> Also, you can always ask the voice agent (Siri on the iPhone) your >>>> location. >>>> >>>> -eric >>>> >>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Donald Raikes wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> This may be a "silly" question, but I figured I would ask it since >>>>> others may not know as well. >>>>> When I am out taking our grand dog for a walk, I would like my IPhone >>>>> to help me determine when I am back home. Our house is in the middle >>>>> of the block, and when I am out with my cane I count the mail boxes >>>>> to determine when I am at our house, but when walking the dog, she >>>>> doesn't allow me to count the mailboxes she just guides me arround >>>>> them (without any formal training). >>>>> >>>>> Also if we go a different route, and approach from accross the street >>>>> I woul d like to know when we are accross from the house. >>>>> >>>>> Is there a simple way to have my phone tell me that we are at home? >>>>> >>>>> Any tips would be appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Don >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>>>> iPhone list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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