um, that is not exactly the way that GPS works. In order for this "hand off" to 
occur, there would also have to be interaction from the device to the sats and 
there just isn't the spectrum space or bandwidth to handle several tens of 
millions of devices simultaneously. the gPS units on the ground are strictly 
receivers.

-eric

On Apr 13, 2018, at 7:12 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

> Given what Eric wrote about his GPS “speed of light” experience, I have to 
> wonder if Eric is not sitting on the cusp of two separate satellites that are 
> continually “handing off” his device to each other.  Just a thought.
> 
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> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:01 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> you should see what happens with my phone sometimes. I will have it sitting 
> here on the desk and all of the sudden, it goes into do not disturb mode. 
> 
> So, I opened up one of the gPS apps I have (Navigon in this case) and left it 
> run. when the Do Not Disturb popped up, I grabbed the phone and checked how 
> far it allegedly moved. Here's the real kicker, for 2 minutes, it traveled 
> 1000 feet to the west at 672 mph, then proceeded 2000 feet to the east at 672 
> mph and went back and forth like that for 3 minutes. Yet, the phone 
> physically didn't move.
> 
> The two things I noted about this:
> 1. the direction was always east and west
> 2. the speed of transit is always that of a jet aircraft at full cruise I 
> think when it happens again, I am going to call up a friend of mine at sky 
> harbor airport ops  and find out if there is any air traffic transiting the 
> space above me at 30k feet going either east or west I have already checked 
> with a ham radio sat tracker program I have here, so I know where the GPS 
> sats are in near real time. If what I think is happening really is, then it 
> would be possible to know when something is overflying my place. :)
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> 
>> GPS accuracy is going to be about 15 feet at best and sitting inside does 
>> not give you good signal quality. The GPS signal is very weak, I read an 
>> article once where they compared it with looking at a Christmas light that 
>> is up on a satellite in space. Nowadays the receives are very good and 
>> sensitive, I remember when I first had my retail store 18 years ago and sold 
>> Garmin GPS units you often would not get a signal under heavy tree cover or 
>> if you were in a narrow valley and even nowadays the accuracy can go way 
>> down the tube if you are in a big city with lots of highrise building around 
>> you. GPS is fantastic, but you have to be aware of its limitations and 
>> factor them in.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Donald Raikes
>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: where am I
>> 
>> Sitting at my desk in my house, siri tells me I am next door so how reliable 
>> is she ;-)
>> 
>> On 4/12/18, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> there is an app called "where the hell am I". It's free on the apple 
>>> appstore and it works nicely.
>>> 
>>> Also, you can always ask the voice agent (Siri on the iPhone) your 
>>> location.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Donald Raikes wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> This may be a "silly" question, but I figured I would ask it since 
>>>> others may not know as well.
>>>> When I am out taking our grand dog for a walk, I would like my IPhone 
>>>> to help me determine when I am back home.  Our house is in the middle 
>>>> of the block, and when I am out with my cane I count the mail boxes 
>>>> to determine when I am at our house, but when walking the dog, she 
>>>> doesn't allow me to count the mailboxes she just guides me arround 
>>>> them (without any formal training).
>>>> 
>>>> Also if we go a different route, and approach from accross the street 
>>>> I woul d like to know when we are accross from the house.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a simple way to have my phone tell me that we are at home?
>>>> 
>>>> Any tips would be appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Don
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