Dear Kelly & List:
Check the terms & conditions of your Xfinity handset insurance. Most carrier
handset insurance says they only need to provide the same make & model phone
in good working order. It could be a trade-in or refurb. AppleCare gets you
a brand new phone.
$12 a month is $144 a year. That is a good down payment on AppleCare Plus
with loss & theft coverage. You generally get what you pay for.
Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: February 12, 2019 4:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: To AppleCare or not....that is the question

consider an insurance plan from your carrier. I am with Xfinity Mobile
and I bought an iPhone Xs and have an insurance plan for $12 a month.
It covers theft, loss, and accidental damage.  It also includes an
upgrade after one year.  It is more coverage than Apple Care at a
fraction of the price.  Service is performed at an Apple store, just
as if I had Apple Care.

Kelly

On 2/11/19, Brent Harding <[email protected]> wrote:
> I had a problem back with the iPhone 7, where the charging just quit
working
>
> randomly one day. Apple did replace it for free while I still had Apple
> Care, I think you get your first year free, and what you're paying for is
> the second year, but when the second one exhibited the same exact issue, I
> ended up having to pay around $300 for a replacement, because the first
year
>
> coverage had lapsed by then.  Now, I am on the Apple upgrade plan, where a
> 256 GB XR is about $43 a month with Apple Care included. Since these are
> effectively 0 interest loans with the option to upgrade after the first
> year, it seems mathematically the same as if you paid it up all at once
with
>
> the Apple Care included. I am glad that the XR seems to have a lot
sturdier
>
> connection when you plug in the lightning cord, it seems to take more
force
>
> to pull it out of there than the 7's did, but hopefully whatever was made
> defectively in a few batches back then won't be a problem again. I
would've
>
> thought for sure they would fix the port and send back the one I had, but
> something leads me to believe that the problem was with something else, as
> they didn't look damaged or anything that one could easily see. The other
> benefit I heard you can get with Apple Care is that they will overnight
you
>
> a different phone to use first if you give them a credit card, and then
once
>
> they fix your broken one, you either send in the replacement after they
send
>
> that back, or if is something they can't fix easily, you keep the
> replacement and they do whatever they do with the old one and it's no
> charge. I thought about adding the loss and theft coverage for piece of
> mind, but there are probably better third-party ways to get insurance for
> that type of thing that cost less.
>
>
> From: "Agent086b" <[email protected]>
> To: "viphone" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: To AppleCare or not....that is the question
>
>
> Hi,
> I may have misunderstood your message. The 3 iPhones I have had replaced I
> did not have to pay anything for the replacements under AppleCare.
> Max.
>
>> On 11 Feb 2019, at 3:02 pm, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Just so you know, Apple Care Plus does not cover loss or theft.
>> It covers accidental damage I think twice, once for each of the two
years,
>>
>> but if your phone needs to be replaced that is also not free. I have no
>> idea how much it costs nowadays with the expensive phones like the XR or
>> XS.
>> Gone are the days when Apple Care Plus was $79 or $99. The last time I
had
>>
>> Apple Care Plus was on my 6S Plus back in 2015. I lost that phone about 3
>>
>> months after I got it when I was visiting my families ranch at Christmas
>> that year. I went for a walk up their driveway which is gravel and about
>> three quarters of a mile long. At the time it was of course covered in
>> snow since we are talking about northern British Columbia and the
>> temperature was minus 30 Celsius (about minus 22 Fahrenheit. When I got
>> back home I realized the phone wasn't in the chest pocket of my down
>> parka. Trying to call it or use Find my iPhone was useless because in
>> these temperatures and without being close to body heat the phone would
>> have shut down in less than 5 minutes. Various members of my family spent
>>
>> about 10 hours searching without luck. Fortunately I had my phone added
to
>>
>> my homeowner's insurance as an extra item with a 0 deductible. That only
>> costs about $30 a year extra and unlike Apple Care Plus it does cover
loss
>>
>> or theft. The insurance paid the full price for a new phone. About 4
>> months later after the snow was gone in mid-April my brother found the
>> phone. I asked him to stick it in a bag of rice and mail it to me, that
>> took a few days and when it arrived I took it out and plugged it in. At
>> first nothing happened, but to my surprise when I checked it an hour or
so
>>
>> later Voiceover came right up, I could unlock it with my PIN and as soon
>> as I did it started dinging and making all sorts of noises as it
connected
>>
>> to my Wi-Fi and 4 months' worth of emails, messages and notifications
went
>> off. In the end I realized that the phone worked perfectly fine with two
>> exceptions: the screen was black in other words it somehow didn't work
any
>>
>> more even though I could do anything using Voiceover. And yes, I did of
>> course check if the screen curtain was on and it was not. The second
issue
>>
>> was that the camera did not work anymore. Now that I had the physical
>> phone back I took it to an Apple Store and after paying $129.99 Canadian
>> they replaced it with a new phone.
>> Quite a few people on this list who have been here for a few years heard
>> the story before, but I recounted it just to make the point that just the
>>
>> cost of Apple Care Plus does not cover a phone replacement. Given how
>> expensive Apple Care Plus has become I am no longer buying it. Water
>> damage is almost impossible nowadays with an iPhone 8 or anything above
it
>>
>> because the phones are virtually waterproof and the X series phones even
>> more so than the 8 and the 8 is more waterproof than the 7. I much rather
>>
>> spend the money to have the phone covered through my homeowner's
>> insurance, it's cheaper and it will cover loss or theft.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn Arnold
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:59 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: To AppleCare or not....that is the question
>>
>> Apple Care is maintenance insurance on an Apple phone.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>>
>> From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 6:55 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: To AppleCare or not....that is the question
>>
>> Hi,
>> Well I'm not that much into Apple stuff. I just have an iPod Touch. Also
>> I've really never heard about such AppleCare.
>> It may have another name on my country and as I'm not that Apple expert,
>> don't know.
>> However, from what I've heard on the lists I am on, when you call the
>> Apple Support they say that if you use whatever accessibility feature you
>>
>> don't need AppleCare to be answered.
>>
>> I'm sure it won't help almost in any way, but if you find use for at
least
>>
>> one of the words I wrote I'll be glad :)
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Marcio
>> Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon>
>>
>>
>> Me 10/02/2019 21:51, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.ED.' via VIPhone escreveu:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have always routinely purchased AppleCare, but have never really had
any
>>
>> reason to use it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I still have a few weeks before the deadline for purchasing AppleCare for
>>
>> my XS.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm curious how others on this list are viewing AppleCare.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best, Keith

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