Dear  Sieghard  & List:
I was told by Apple Accessibility Answer desk a few months ago, that AppleCare 
Plus now covers device loss & theft, this is why the price increased. You are 
lucky your home Underwriter covered the phone with zero deductible for $30/year 
premium. Mine wanted a much higher premium. Decided not to cover the phone, too 
expensive premium. Unlike USS Cellular Carriers, Bell Mobility does not offer 
handset insurance far as I know. They also do not offer ring tones && caller 
tones as US carriers do. Guess Bell does not like /Cash Cows.
Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: February 10, 2019 11:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: To AppleCare or not....that is the question

Just so you know, Apple Care Plus does not cover loss or theft.
It covers accidental damage I think twice, once for each of the two years, but 
if your phone needs to be replaced that is also not free. I have no idea how 
much it costs nowadays with the expensive phones like the XR or XS.
Gone are the days when Apple Care Plus was $79 or $99. The last time I had 
Apple Care Plus was on my 6S Plus back in 2015. I lost that phone about 3 
months after I got it when I was visiting my families ranch at Christmas that 
year. I went for a walk up their driveway which is gravel and about three 
quarters of a mile long. At the time it was of course covered in snow since we 
are talking about northern British Columbia and the temperature was minus 30 
Celsius (about minus 22 Fahrenheit. When I got back home I realized the phone 
wasn't in the chest pocket of my down parka. Trying to call it or use Find my 
iPhone was useless because in these temperatures and without being close to 
body heat the phone would have shut down in less than 5 minutes. Various 
members of my family spent about 10 hours searching without luck. Fortunately I 
had my phone added to my homeowner's insurance as an extra item with a 0 
deductible. That only costs about $30 a year extra and unlike Apple Care Plus 
it does cover loss or theft. The insurance paid the full price for a new phone. 
About 4 months later after the snow was gone in mid-April my brother found the 
phone. I asked him to stick it in a bag of rice and mail it to me, that took a 
few days and when it arrived I took it out and plugged it in. At first nothing 
happened, but to my surprise when I checked it an hour or so later Voiceover 
came right up, I could unlock it with my PIN and as soon as I did it started 
dinging and making all sorts of noises as it connected to my Wi-Fi and 4 
months' worth of emails, messages and notifications went off. In the end I 
realized that the phone worked perfectly fine with two exceptions: the screen 
was black in other words it somehow didn't work anymore even though I could do 
anything using Voiceover. And yes, I did of course check if the screen curtain 
was on and it was not. The second issue was that the camera did not work 
anymore. Now that I had the physical phone back I took it to an Apple Store and 
after paying $129.99 Canadian they replaced it with a new phone.
Quite a few people on this list who have been here for a few years heard the 
story before, but I recounted it just to make the point that just the cost of 
Apple Care Plus does not cover a phone replacement. Given how expensive Apple 
Care Plus has become I am no longer buying it. Water damage is almost 
impossible nowadays with an iPhone 8 or anything above it because the phones 
are virtually waterproof and the X series phones even more so than the 8 and 
the 8 is more waterproof than the 7. I much rather spend the money to have the 
phone covered through my homeowner's insurance, it's cheaper and it will cover 
loss or theft.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: To AppleCare or not....that is the question

Apple Care is maintenance insurance on an Apple phone. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 
From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 6:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: To AppleCare or not....that is the question

Hi,
Well I'm not that much into Apple stuff. I just have an iPod Touch. Also I've 
really never heard about such AppleCare.
It may have another name on my country and as I'm not that Apple expert, don't 
know.
However, from what I've heard on the lists I am on, when you call the Apple 
Support they say that if you use whatever accessibility feature you don't need 
AppleCare to be answered.

I'm sure it won't help almost in any way, but if you find use for at least one 
of the words I wrote I'll be glad :)


Cheers, 
Marcio 
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Me 10/02/2019 21:51, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.ED.' via VIPhone escreveu:


        Hi,

         

        I have always routinely purchased AppleCare, but have never really had 
any reason to use it.
        I still have a few weeks before the deadline for purchasing AppleCare 
for my XS.
I’m curious how others on this list are viewing AppleCare.

        Any thoughts appreciated.

Best, Keith


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