Hi Davy, I don’t quite agree, there are people who because of some reason cannot get the gestures on the new X/XS/XR phones right. For them I think an iPhone 8 is a great choice, it is a really good phone and still has a home button, also it is much cheaper and will be probably even cheaper this fall when the new 2019 phones come out. I think if somebody buys an iPhone 8 this fall and if that person doesn’t care about having the latest and greatest that they can happily use this iPhone 8 for at least 4 and probably 5 years. Maybe they won’t get the latest iOS update in the last year, but so what. As for having to deal with the gestures and Face Id I agree maybe with the gestures since I doubt a home button comes back to the phone, but I don’t think it’s impossible to imagine that in a year or two or three Apple may give us a choice of Face Id or Touch Id, but if that is so Touch Id wont be via a Touch Id home button but because the latest screens and chips can support touch Id anywhere on a phone’s screen. I am not saying this will be so, but I am saying it very well could be so and if somebody buys an 8 now this change if it comes will have happened by the time they need to upgrade next.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 8:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: These are the devices that will support iOS 13 Jewel A good advise. Why are so many blinds so anxious to move to the x series of the iphone? It has been 5 years now that I have bought my humble 5s even not knowing what a touch screen was. A month later I found myself to be an intermediate voiceover user and now I am advanced. So please please Jewel, if you want a good investment plan on buying an iphone, just buy teh xr 64 GB yes yes without a home button. In less then 10 minutes you will be used to these very simple and intuitive gestures. Even if you are rather a beginner and stay on that level, that makes no difference yes you can everybody can. And think twice Jewel, one day you have to, one day you will be obliged to use such devices without nearly any buttons. For all those doubting about that, please step out of your home button comfort zone! Regards Davy From: Richard Turner<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2019 4:26 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: These are the devices that will support iOS 13 Jewel, If you find this Fall that you really want to upgrade to have iOS 13, then I'd consider the 8 plus. It still has the home button; and while larger, has great battery life, and should last through a few more iOS versions. It does not have the 3.5 MM earphone jack; but nothing after the SE does' so you have to go with the lightning earphones or bluetooth anyway. Besides, there will probably be another new phone this fall. 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Like with prior iOS upgrades, apps will probably drop support for older OS’s as time goes by and even then, it’ll likely be a while before you begin to notice it to where you’ll feel the impact. If iOS 12.3.1 is working ok for you, then it’s not like not being able to upgrade to V 13will be a huge loss. Honestly, at this point, I’d bet that the simple fact that you’re running a 5S is more the issue for things like performance. Regardless of being able to upgrade or not to the new iOS, you should give consideration to upgrading your phone period. Off hand, I’d say try to aim for at the very least a 7 or 7+. I know the 6S 6S+ and SE made the cut this time, but since the phones just one year older got the axe, I wouldn’t bet on these phones making the cut for iOS 14 next year. If you follow the trend, that would maybe give you two more years of OS life cycles with the 7 series to count on if the newer phones are beyond your budget. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Jewel Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 6:25 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: nz_vi_iphone_users <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: These are the devices that will support iOS 13 Does this mean that I will have to ditch my 5S? If so, what would you advise as a replacement, with as small a new learning curve as possible, please: pretty please! 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