If you're truly concerned about posts and traffic on this list, I'd encourage you to follow the moderators request at the bottom of every post to this list, namely " If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself."
I read the petition myself, and I didn't see where the petitioner did anything dumb or stupid. They were bringing up the point that Apple had such a serious VoiceOver bug in the beta that a blind person couldn't participate. Did you read the petition yourself or were you just basing your opinion on what someone said about the petition? -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf > Of CrazyEyez > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 1:47 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Pétition · Apple: Apple, commit to never again willfully > excluding > disabled people from public betas · Change.org > > Honestly, people are dumb. > They'll start a petition over anything, even if its their fault something > happened. > I don't feel bad for you in the least. > We should start a petition to remove the idiot who started this whole mess > from > the list so they don't clog our emails with their wining. > Moderator remove this garbage thread please. > It shows true stupidity. > Where has the comprehension gone? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 16, 2020, at 2:16 AM, Donna Casteen <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > I can't believe such a petition was started!!🙄🤦🏻♀️ This petition was > > started > because an Apple watch user went against Apple's WARNING to NEVER install > beta versions of IOS on ANY Appple device that is YOUR main device! Of course, > this person just HAD to have the beta update & installed the beta version on > their Apple watch that they RELY on & USE daily! Beta versions of any program > WILL have bugs. The fact that Apple is a company that stands behind their > products making them accessible for the blind & those with other disabilities, > does NOT exclude Apple's beta versions of IOS from having bugs. Nor does this > bug prevent those who are blind taking part in the public beta testing > process. > Apple was FULLY aware of the voiceover bug Associated with ALL Apple > watches. And fully WARNED voiceover users with Apple watches of the bug. > Apple also informed voiceover users that they were working on fixing the > voiceover bug, so that voiceover users could participate in the public beta > testing program. Placing the blame on Apple & criticizing Apple for a problem > that they were working toward fixing, is wrong. The Blame solely lies with > Apple > watch user(s), who in their poor judgement decided to install the public beta > on > a device, in which is used daily. > > > > It is very important that blind iDevice users participate in Apple's beta > > testing > program, otherwise voiceover or low vision features of the iDevices would > always have major bugs, making the iDevices unusable. Apple is a large > company. The population that is blind & who use Apple products is very small. > If > this type of placing blame where it is obvious it does not belong & publically > criticizing Apple for something that at the time was out of their control, > but > Apple was working toward fixing: Apple is in the end going to do 1 of 2 > things 1. > No longer let blind users participate in the beta testing process. Apple can > do > this by stopping all public beta testing. 2. Apple throws in the towel, > giving up on > trying to make their products accessible for such a small population of > people. > Neither of these scenarios are in the best interest of blind iDevice users. > > > > When beta testing follow Apple's guidelines or otherwise DO NOT complain > when your device stops working! > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > > you > feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > [email protected]. 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