You wouldn't if you are still on iOS 13, this is only in iOS 14.
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 8:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Toolbar? I did not find anything called Container Description in Verbosity. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Jones Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:04 PM To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Toolbar? Hi, Take a look at the verbosity settings for Voiceover. I set the "container descriptions" to "do nothing" and I am not getting a lot of the extra speech. Michael > On Sep 20, 2020, at 19:23, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah, that toolbar announcement bugs the crap out of me just like the > thing saying "conversations" at the top of the messages app. > > Kim > > On 9/20/20, Cristóbal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Yup. I wrote Apple accessibility as well. Don’t' know if it's a bug >> or well intentioned effort to provide more description/information, >> but it's one of those cases where more isn't better. >> I asked if it isn't in fact a bug, that if they could at the very >> least include this behavior only when hints are turned on to give us >> more experienced iOS users more options on what's spoken. >> Same goes for the mail app. Now, when you're focused on a folder, VO >> says no unread mail. I mean., you intuitively understand if VO >> doesn’t' read X unread messages, there are no unread emails in that >> folder or inbox. Just more superfluous chatter we have to sift >> through every single time. Again, probably mor appropriate for when hints >> are turned on. >> >> >> Cristóbal >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:27 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Toolbar? >> >> I very much agree here, always thought how nice it would be to be >> able to turn off how Voiceover says "Dock" whenever I touch one of the apps >> there. >> After all, it doesn't say "Home screen 1" if I touch an app on my >> first home screen and I think Apple really needs to tie such >> redundant announcements to Voiceover Hints or to entirely allow them >> to be turned on or off just how you can really customize what >> information Jaws speaks. Any half way competent iPhone user doesn't need to >> hear "Dock" or "Toolbar" or "tab bar" >> spoken. Yes, you get used to it, but it's still annoying and >> hopefully a number of people will write to Apple Accessibility >> requesting this. This is definitely one I will point out especially >> now that they are expanding such extra announcements. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:58 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Toolbar? >> >> It would be nice to be able to turn these announcements off. I mean >> really, toolbar? But it’s been there all through the beta cycle, so >> I’m sure it’s deliberate. More unnecessary verbosity. Please let us >> turn all this junk off. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Richard Turner >>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> That would be considered a feature by Apple, just like the Dock >>> saying the Dock when you touch the apps at the bottom of your screen. >>> Apparently, we are supposed to know we are in the Toolbar, or Dock, >>> as if one couldn't figure that out because it is the last line of the >>> screen. >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must >>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of >>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have >>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted >>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Gerardo Corripio >>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 10:39 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Toolbar? >>> >>> I’m curious if when we touch, for example within the Mail app, near >>> the dock where you have the ToolBar to delete, More Options, and >>> others, is it an iOS14 bug that it says ToolBar, or is it someting that >>> should be there? >>> Of course it doesn’t bother me, but I’m curious. >>> >>> Gera >>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>> iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>> itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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