Thanks. That's what I figured, but I just wanted to check. I'm sticking with 13.7 for a while.
On 9/21/20, Mike B <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Joshua, > > I have the older SE 2016 running iOS14 and it does have the Container > settings in Verboscity, but my new SE 2020 does not have the Container > settings in Verboscity and this phone is running iOS13.7. > > Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joshua Hendrickson > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 5:16 AM > Subject: Re: Toolbar? > > > Where exactly are container descriptions? I went to settings, > accessibility, voiceover, verbosity, and I couldn't find anything > about containers. I'm running 13.7 is this only in 14? > > On 9/21/20, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote: >> I find that with container descriptions off, all my text messages still >> speak the name of the sender, and in the case of a group text, it says >> the >> names of each individual in the conversation, without all that extra >> verbiage. >> >> >> >> Richard >> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass >> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient >> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not >> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - >> Edward >> Herbert >> >> On Sep 21, 2020, at 3:29 AM, Alvin Ng <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> But when you turn off the container descriptions, you will not know >> which >> message you are in using the treaded mails. Besides, VO will not announce >> who the sender is. >> >> >> >> On 21 Sep 2020, at 9:03 AM, Michael Jones <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Take a look at the verbosity settings for Voiceover. I set the >> "container >> descriptions" to "do nothing" and I am not getting a lot of the extra >> speech. >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 20, 2020, at 19:23, Kimber Gardner <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Yeah, that toolbar announcement bugs the crap out of me just like the >> thing saying "conversations" at the top of the messages app. >> >> Kim >> >> On 9/20/20, Cristóbal Muñoz <[email protected]> wrote: >> Yup. I wrote Apple accessibility as well. Don’t' know if it's a bug or >> well >> intentioned effort to provide more description/information, but it's one >> of >> those cases where more isn't better. >> I asked if it isn't in fact a bug, that if they could at the very least >> include this behavior only when hints are turned on to give us more >> experienced iOS users more options on what's spoken. >> Same goes for the mail app. Now, when you're focused on a folder, VO says >> no >> unread mail. I mean., you intuitively understand if VO doesn’t' read X >> unread messages, there are no unread emails in that folder or inbox. Just >> more superfluous chatter we have to sift through every single time. >> Again, >> probably mor appropriate for when hints are turned on. >> >> >> Cristóbal >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:27 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Toolbar? >> >> I very much agree here, always thought how nice it would be to be able to >> turn off how Voiceover says "Dock" whenever I touch one of the apps >> there. >> After all, it doesn't say "Home screen 1" if I touch an app on my first >> home >> screen and I think Apple really needs to tie such redundant announcements >> to >> Voiceover Hints or to entirely allow them to be turned on or off just how >> you can really customize what information Jaws speaks. Any half way >> competent iPhone user doesn't need to hear "Dock" or "Toolbar" or "tab >> bar" >> spoken. Yes, you get used to it, but it's still annoying and hopefully a >> number of people will write to Apple Accessibility requesting this. This >> is >> definitely one I will point out especially now that they are expanding >> such >> extra announcements. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Mary >> Otten >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:58 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Toolbar? >> >> It would be nice to be able to turn these announcements off. I mean >> really, >> toolbar? But it’s been there all through the beta cycle, so I’m sure it’s >> deliberate. More unnecessary verbosity. Please let us turn all this junk >> off. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 20, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Richard Turner >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> That would be considered a feature by Apple, just like the Dock saying >> the Dock when you touch the apps at the bottom of your screen. >> Apparently, we are supposed to know we are in the Toolbar, or Dock, as if >> one couldn't figure that out because it is the last line of the screen. >> >> >> >> Richard >> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass >> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient >> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not >> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - >> Edward Herbert >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Gerardo Corripio >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 10:39 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Toolbar? >> >> I’m curious if when we touch, for example within the Mail app, near the >> dock where you have the ToolBar to delete, More Options, and others, is >> it >> an iOS14 bug that it says ToolBar, or is it someting that should be >> there? >> Of course it doesn’t bother me, but I’m curious. >> >> Gera >> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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