Get it back to how it has always been. X$In English I guess it'd translate as Raise Pitch. Good luck!
Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel > El 21 sep 2020, a la(s) 5:29 a.m., Alvin Ng <[email protected]> escribió: > > But when you turn off the container descriptions, you will not know which > message you are in using the treaded mails. Besides, VO will not announce who > the sender is. > > > > On 21 Sep 2020, at 9:03 AM, Michael Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Take a look at the verbosity settings for Voiceover. I set the "container > descriptions" to "do nothing" and I am not getting a lot of the extra speech. > > Michael > > > > > >> On Sep 20, 2020, at 19:23, Kimber Gardner <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Yeah, that toolbar announcement bugs the crap out of me just like the >> thing saying "conversations" at the top of the messages app. >> >> Kim >> >>> On 9/20/20, Cristóbal Muñoz <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Yup. I wrote Apple accessibility as well. Don’t' know if it's a bug or well >>> intentioned effort to provide more description/information, but it's one of >>> those cases where more isn't better. >>> I asked if it isn't in fact a bug, that if they could at the very least >>> include this behavior only when hints are turned on to give us more >>> experienced iOS users more options on what's spoken. >>> Same goes for the mail app. Now, when you're focused on a folder, VO says no >>> unread mail. I mean., you intuitively understand if VO doesn’t' read X >>> unread messages, there are no unread emails in that folder or inbox. Just >>> more superfluous chatter we have to sift through every single time. Again, >>> probably mor appropriate for when hints are turned on. >>> >>> >>> Cristóbal >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>> Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:27 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Toolbar? >>> >>> I very much agree here, always thought how nice it would be to be able to >>> turn off how Voiceover says "Dock" whenever I touch one of the apps there. >>> After all, it doesn't say "Home screen 1" if I touch an app on my first home >>> screen and I think Apple really needs to tie such redundant announcements to >>> Voiceover Hints or to entirely allow them to be turned on or off just how >>> you can really customize what information Jaws speaks. Any half way >>> competent iPhone user doesn't need to hear "Dock" or "Toolbar" or "tab bar" >>> spoken. Yes, you get used to it, but it's still annoying and hopefully a >>> number of people will write to Apple Accessibility requesting this. This is >>> definitely one I will point out especially now that they are expanding such >>> extra announcements. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mary >>> Otten >>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:58 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Toolbar? >>> >>> It would be nice to be able to turn these announcements off. I mean really, >>> toolbar? But it’s been there all through the beta cycle, so I’m sure it’s >>> deliberate. More unnecessary verbosity. Please let us turn all this junk >>> off. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> That would be considered a feature by Apple, just like the Dock saying >>>> the Dock when you touch the apps at the bottom of your screen. >>>> Apparently, we are supposed to know we are in the Toolbar, or Dock, as if >>>> one couldn't figure that out because it is the last line of the screen. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass >>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient >>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not >>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - >>>> Edward Herbert >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>> Gerardo Corripio >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 10:39 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Toolbar? >>>> >>>> I’m curious if when we touch, for example within the Mail app, near the >>>> dock where you have the ToolBar to delete, More Options, and others, is it >>>> an iOS14 bug that it says ToolBar, or is it someting that should be there? >>>> Of course it doesn’t bother me, but I’m curious. >>>> >>>> Gera >>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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