Hi Sandy, I feel so silly for not thinking about the scrub gesture to get out of the App Switcher, Control Center, etc. I even used the scrub gesture a time or two today for other things…it just didn’t enter my mind that this could be a solution for some of my issues today. 😳 Thank you so much for reminding me! It helps so much when exiting the App Switcher, Control Center and to move backwards through menus. Could you elaborate a bit more about setting "home" as the macro for a double tap on the back of the phone. I think there was discussion about this on the list, but It wasn’t pertinent to me so I didn’t absorb much. What is the process for setting up actions that happen by tapping on the back of the phone? It appears I may be getting better with using the gesture to open the App Switcher and Control Center. The man who sold me the phone, said I needed to touch a visual bar, that is a fraction above the case, before sliding the finger. so I’ve been turning/twisting various fingers, trying to start sliding from the case up. Others on this list today referred to use of a flick gesture, which initially confused me as flicking means the finger taps and quickly leaves the display; like flicking a bug away. I’m now trying a motion that begins like a flick, but instead of touching the display and quickly leaving it, the pad of my finger lands a tiny bit above the case, and then slides toward the top of the display. It kind of feels like an ice skater jumping onto ice and then sliding. There’s probably a better movement, but at least it appears to be getting easier. Oh, I almost always have Siri open apps. I typically go to the App Switcher to close apps, which Siri won’t do, along with opening the App Switcher. I know some might question my desire to close apps; it’s just my preference. To be honest, back in the day, I never thought I could use an iPhone, but with time/experience, I developed pretty good skill. I’m certain things are going to get easier, especially with the kind support of others, like yourself, to get me through the learning curve. Lastly, in case anyone is curious, my Instacart issue was resolved by deleting and reinstalling the app (Apple Accessibility suggestion). . Also, something I didn’t mention, is that many of my news alerts weren’t coming via notifications. After going to the app, and ensuring the settings were configured correctly, the alerts are starting to roll in again. VO is still not reading notifications on the lock screen, but Apple Accessibility reminded me I could simply use “hey Siri” to get the notifications read. It seems like a good plan, but I have never used “hey Siri” so will try to remember and get in the habit of doing that until the feature returns to my phone. Katrina From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 4:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions Katriona, A couple of weeks ago, I made the same upgrade as you and can identify with your frustrations. First thing I did was set "home" as the macro for a double tap on the back of the phone. When I am in the control centre, especially by mistake, I find that I can get out by a scrub gesture. Mind you, you have to wait a second or two for it to move you out of the control centre. I too, have to make several attempts to use the bottom of screen and slide up, for the home button, So, rarely use it. Remember Siri can help. Instead of using the app switcher to go to another running app, I just reopen it using Siri. HTH a bit, and I am relying upon the fact that many here say that they don't miss the home button. I have always found the VO gestures intuitive and am disappointed with the one we have to use for Home and App Switcher. Mind you, I do think this is a much superior phone, especially, the camera functionality, than the 8. Sandy and Z. Sent from The dark side of the moon
On 7 Nov 2022, at 20:14, Katrina Anderson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Hello All, I replaced my iPhone 8 yesterday with a 14 Pro 256 and IOS 16 iPhone.1. Although I am managing to deal with no home button, it certainly isn’t easy yet. Although I will probably have additional questions in the future, for now, I would appreciate any answers or thoughts about the following: 1. I’m not able to sign in to the Instacart app. After entering the E-mail address and password, there appears to be a captcha, including a visual and audio challenge. I click on the audio option and then play; hear the challenge, but then I can’t move forward. There is a field to enter what I heard; I double tap, as VO says to do, and nothing; no keyboard is displayed and there’s no dictate button. You can click on a new challenge, visual challenge and verify (the latter results in VO saying “in progress” of course an answer was entered so I didn’t expect anything to happen). Hopefully there is an easy solution to this. 2. Voiceover (VO) is still not getting notifications on the lock screen. I had hoped this would be resolved by getting a newer phone. FYI, I have the setting for Siri to announce notifications turned off, as it seems redundant to have VO and Siri do the same thing, and because I thought it might cause a conflict. Thoughts? 3. Because of the design of the 14 Pro, I’m finding it less efficient to back out of menus, etc. On prior phones, I could quickly touch the top/left of the display to find the back button. Now, if I go to high, I activate the Control Center; if I could only activate the Home Screen and App Switcher as easily (i.e. I can activate them eventually but usually after numerous attempts to slide my finger from the bottom up). 😀 Now that I’m in the Control Center, I have to go through the attempts to return to the Home Screen, and then attempt to find the back button by swiping a lot. Is there an easier way to navigate menus, or tricks to make the process more efficient? 4. Is it possible to change a setting so that the Control Center doesn’t open when touching the top of the display? 5. Again, getting out of areas like the Control Center, App Switcher and submenus on the Home Screen can be done, but it is certainly a challenge. I put my finger at the bottom, above the lightening port, and slide up to the first vibration and let go. The thing is it takes me multiple attempts to feel the vibration, so I assume I didn’t start in the proper place, low enough, etc. Hopefully this will eventually get easier, but in the meantime suggestions are welcome. Is there an alternative to what I’m doing to exit these areas (e.g. can Siri help, could the side button help, etc.)? I recall someone reporting on this list, that she heard VO announce something to identify the Home Screen and App Switcher, and then she lifts her finger. Should VO be announcing that for me? 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