Thanks Carolyn.  I'm not familiar with Rita Howells tutorial; can you tell me 
more about that?  I should see if NBP has a publication that might help.  I 
bought a publication, written by Anna Dresner and Dean Martineau, back when I 
got my first iPhone; it was a huge help.

Hopefully one day I will have your skill, but in the meantime, thank you for 
the support.

Katrina

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 6:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions

I probably am older than just about everyone on the list. But, Rita Howells had 
a great tutorial on the phones without buttons, so that when I got mine, I 
never looked back, never had a problem, and would not go back to a Home Button 
now. 

One thing about the flicking, say up one from the bottom to Home Page, light 
flick does it. I think the slightest pressure does not work, just light rub up 
the screen. 

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 4:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions

Katriona,

    A couple  of weeks ago, I made the same  upgrade as you and can identify 
with your frustrations. First thing I did was set "home" as the macro for a 
double tap on the back of the phone. When I am in the control centre, 
especially by mistake, I find that I can get out by a scrub gesture. Mind you, 
you have to wait a second or two for it to move you out of the control centre. 

    I too, have to make several attempts to use the bottom of screen and slide 
up, for the home button, So, rarely use it. Remember Siri can help. Instead of 
using the app switcher to go to another running app, I just reopen it using 
Siri. 

    HTH a bit, and I am relying upon the fact that many here say that they 
don't miss the home button. I have always found the VO gestures intuitive and 
am disappointed with the one we have to use for Home and App Switcher.

    Mind you, I do think this is a much superior phone, especially, the camera 
functionality, than the 8.

    Sandy and Z. 


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        On 7 Nov 2022, at 20:14, Katrina Anderson <[email protected]> 
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        Hello All,

         

        I replaced my iPhone 8 yesterday with a 14 Pro 256 and IOS 16 iPhone.1. 
 Although I am managing to deal with no home button, it certainly isn’t easy 
yet.  Although I will probably have additional questions in the future, for 
now, I would appreciate any answers or thoughts about the following:

         

        1.      I’m not able to sign in to the Instacart app.  After entering 
the E-mail address and password, there appears to be a captcha, including a 
visual and audio challenge.  I click on the audio option and then play; hear 
the challenge, but then I can’t move forward.  There is a field to enter what I 
heard; I double tap, as VO says to do, and nothing; no keyboard is displayed 
and there’s no dictate button.  You can click on a new challenge, visual 
challenge and verify (the latter results in VO saying “in progress” of course 
an answer was entered so I didn’t expect anything to happen).  Hopefully there 
is an easy solution to this.
        2.      Voiceover (VO) is still not getting notifications on the lock 
screen.  I had hoped this would be resolved by getting a newer phone.  FYI, I 
have the setting for Siri to announce notifications turned off, as it seems 
redundant to have VO and Siri do the same thing, and because I thought it might 
cause a conflict.  Thoughts?
        3.      Because of the design of the 14 Pro, I’m finding it less 
efficient to back out of menus, etc.  On prior phones, I could quickly touch 
the top/left of the display to find the back button.  Now, if I go to high, I 
activate the Control Center; if I could only activate the Home Screen and App 
Switcher as easily (i.e. I can activate them eventually but usually after 
numerous attempts to slide my finger from the bottom up). 😀 Now that I’m in the 
Control Center, I have to go through the attempts to return to the Home Screen, 
and then attempt to find the back button by swiping a lot.  Is there an easier 
way to navigate menus, or tricks to make the process more efficient?
        4.      Is it possible to change a setting so  that the Control Center 
doesn’t open when touching the top of the display?  
        5.      Again, getting out of areas like the Control Center, App 
Switcher and submenus on the Home Screen can be done, but it is certainly a 
challenge.  I put my finger at the bottom, above the lightening port, and slide 
up to the first vibration and let go.  The thing is it takes me multiple 
attempts to feel the vibration, so I assume I didn’t start in the proper place, 
low enough, etc.  Hopefully this will eventually get easier, but in the 
meantime suggestions are welcome.  Is there an alternative to what I’m doing to 
exit these areas (e.g. can Siri help, could the side button help, etc.)?  I 
recall someone reporting on this list, that she heard VO  announce something to 
identify the Home Screen and App Switcher, and then she lifts her finger.  
Should VO be announcing that for me?  I just get the vibration.  Should I wait 
longer to let go in order to hear VO?

        Looking forward to receiving any support you can provide,

        Katrina

        

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