Hi David,

That may be the case, but is this documented anywhere that you know of? In any 
case, I've no qualms about admitting I was wrong if it does more than force a 
shut down.

Cheers,

Grant

On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:22 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote:

> The reboot does more than the shut-down. I am not aware of everything it 
> does, but one thing reboot does is clear and rebuild the driver stacks, such 
> as bluetooth and wifi. I suspect it also rebuilds the VO driver stacks.
> 
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> On 17 Aug 2014, at 9:05, Grant Hardy <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sieghard, I don't, of course, have access to how Apple set this up 
>> internally, but it is my opinion that forcibly resetting an iOS device 
>> simply forces the system to cut the power so that the device can reboot. 
>> That is why it is a useful command to perform when you cannot power off the 
>> phone by any normal means. It is therefore my view that if you can reboot 
>> your device normally, this force-reset method won't achieve anything or 
>> reset anything that a normal reboot wouldn't. To use another analogy, if my 
>> desktop PC has a problem that is not resolved by rebooting, why would it be 
>> resolved by unplugging the power cord while the PC is powered up, causing an 
>> improper shut down? I know this topic has come up before and other listers 
>> don't agree with my view, and I am more than happy to stand corrected and 
>> admit that I am totally out to lunch on this one. However, based on my 
>> understanding of the force-reset method, I am fairly sure I am correct about 
>> this.
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
>> On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Grant,
>>>  
>>> Doing a reset by holding the power and home buttons may not be something 
>>> you want to do every day and shouldn't have to do, but it also won't hurt. 
>>> It will definitely reset more things than a simply shutdown and reboot of 
>>> the phone and in your case I'd try it. I would probably remove all apps 
>>> from the app switcher and do a regular reboot, then do the reset and while 
>>> it may not fix your problem, I highly doubt it would hurt anything just as 
>>> pressing the reset key on a computer won't hurt anything either.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>> Of Grant Hardy
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:30 AM
>>> To: Viphone List; Viphone List
>>> Subject: Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
>>>  
>>> Thanks Donna! It definitely takes time to get used to listening to a voice 
>>> that quickly, but if you're interested, you could try cranking up your rate 
>>> a bit when you're just listening to system prompts (like opening the mail 
>>> app and browsing to a folder) then slowing it down to read the actual 
>>> content. Of course, this is assuming you can change your rate. :)
>>> 
>>> Grant
>>>  
>>> On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't have a solution to your problem. 
>>>  
>>> I just wanted to say...Wow!!! I can't understand but every other word VO 
>>> says when the speed is set to 100%  Heck, my brain or ears can't even keep 
>>> up to follow along with VO is saying. LOL! Wish I had your talent, it would 
>>> make doing tasks on my device faster. 65% is the fastest speed that I'm 
>>> able to go and still be able to understand VO and comprehend what I'm 
>>> listening to VO reading to me. 
>>>  
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Grant Hardy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>>  
>>> I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it 
>>> is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO 
>>> preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that's not entirely true; VO 
>>> occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks 
>>> to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, 
>>> VO announces the "bullet" symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but 
>>> then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text.
>>>  
>>> I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. 
>>> I'm not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive 
>>> troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I 
>>> wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any 
>>> tips.
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Grant
>>>  
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