I have used cyl 0, on occasion, for page or spool and have never had a problem.
Jim

At 04:31 PM 12/9/2005, you wrote:
Cecelia,

I have neither a D6800 or z/VM 5.1, but I do wonder about your
allocation of SPOL as 0 thru 3338 and PAGE as 0 thru 3338 on what
appears to be real volumes. I am wondering whether this is stepping on
the VOLSER in some fashion? I've always been careful to allocate this
space as 1 through END when adding new volumes, leaving cyl 0 alone. My
2 cents, in case it helps.

Ron


-----Original Message-----
From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dusha, Cecelia, Ms., WHS/ITMD
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 11:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: DS6800 & zVM 5.1

This is not early in the install process, but it is necessary to start
over then that is what I will do...

The SPOOL and PAGE volumes are the predefined areas that IBM provides
with z/VM 5.1.

q alloc spool
                EXTENT     EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %
VOLID  RDEV      START        END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED
------ ---- ---------- ---------- ------ ------ ------ ----
510SPL 1003          0       3338 601020  28020  36000   4%
                                  ------ ------        ----
SUMMARY                           601020  28020          4%
USABLE                            601020  28020          4%
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 07:04:51

q alloc page
                EXTENT     EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %
VOLID  RDEV      START        END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED
------ ---- ---------- ---------- ------ ------ ------ ----
510PAG 1004          0       3338 601020     12     12   1%
                                  ------ ------        ----
SUMMARY                           601020     12          1%
USABLE                            601020     12          1%
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 07:05:45

To generate the ALLOC maps, I linked to the full volume definition with
the directory.  That is why it indicates it is a minidisk, but the
system as it as a full volume.

ICK03090I VOLUME SERIAL = 510SPL
ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORDS
ICK03000I CPVOL REPORT FOR 1003 FOLLOWS:

ICK03021I 1003 IS FORMATTED FOR VM/XA|ESA MODE

          CYLINDER ALLOCATION CURRENTLY IS AS FOLLOWS:
          TYPE     START      END        TOTAL
          ----     -----      ---        -----
          SPOL     0          3338       3339

ICK00001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0


ICK03090I VOLUME SERIAL = 510PAG
ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORDS
ICK03000I CPVOL REPORT FOR 1004 FOLLOWS:

ICK03021I 1004 IS FORMATTED FOR VM/XA|ESA MODE

          CYLINDER ALLOCATION CURRENTLY IS AS FOLLOWS:
          TYPE     START      END        TOTAL
          ----     -----      ---        -----
          PAGE     0          3338       3339

ICK00001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0

Jim Bohnsack
Cornell Univ.
(607) 255-1760

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