----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Blanton"

The 2nd Law will
crumble soon.

I'm not sure that hydrinos violate this. After all, it took energy to put that electron in it's "ground state" orbit.


Yes this statement does include a healthy dose of "poetic license" ... as all that will "really" happen, when the dust settles (majority rules), is that the 'Law' will be 'reinterpreted' to include a 'larger' system than before. This already happened once when nuclear energy came along. The problem with ZPE is that the 'outside' sytsem is "interdimensional," so in effect this does turns the 2nd Law into little more than semantic mush, even more so than presently. I know that there are those who say LENR is really nuclear, so there is 'no' violation anyway.

I say that even if LENR involves a nuclear reaction, even a non-standard nuclear reaction, that it can also have a ZPE input (the part which is the 'outside' system) and consequently even low-energy-nuclear goes flat-up against the original intent of the 2nd Law.

Jones

Whilst on the subject of semantics in law&order... (may Lenny/Jerry rest-in-peace)... GBS sez - When a man wants to murder a tiger he calls it sport: when the tiger wants to murder him he calls it ferocity. The distinction between Crime and Justice is no greater.

....not to mention the ever-popular insight which applies to physics equally with L&O:

Obedience simulates subordination [and murders creativity] as fear of the police simulates honesty. -George Bernard Shaw

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