Jones, You might be right they understand nothing - nada. But as you said first thing first. To be categoric about others believe might backfire. There might be a shred of truth in their ideas, why not just find out if that is so and add that to the previous knowledge.
A couple of comments. Those guys are part of the European Aerospace establishment as you call it. Kiruna (North of the polar circle was set up in the 60is as a station for studying Northern Light. Your suspicion that they snub at all other data acquired over the years does not have any foundation either. I do agree that if you do not think it is possible they have anything, then wait and see what they produce. Get a schedule and check the outcome. Then one can make statements with accuracy. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com [email protected] +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 YCDBSOYA On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > *From:* Bob Cook > > > > Ø If the authors are embarrassed as has been suggested they should be, I > doubt they will come to Vortex-L for consultation. > > > > First things first. The real problem is that there is a fabulous Library > of LENR experiments, readily available to consult, and free to explore. > They should go there first and study it. > > > > Jed Rothwell has put countless hours and his own funds over 25 years to > memorialize the efforts of dozens of scientists and thousands of papers. None > of these experiments going back to 1989 – representing 25 years of blood, > sweat and tears - has demonstrated that neutrons are a relevant factor in > LENR and none of them has shown that gamma radiation is a relevant factor. > One other theory which focused on the neutron modality – that of Widom and > Larsen, has gotten lots of exposure with no experimental backing – and the > Swedes failed to acknowledge it, indicating they were unaware of prior work. > > > > The real problem, therefore, is ignorance (and/or arrogance) to think that > this body of work which we all have benefited from - has no meaning. > Newcomers to the field, possibly desiring to make a positive impression on > the European Aerospace establishment went to a fair amount of effort, but > with no supporting data – to build a theory which has as its very > foundation a dependency on neutrons. Take the neutrons away – they have > nothing at all. > > > > They are essentially thumbing their nose on the everything that has > transpired since 1989, so yes… they should be embarrassed, and yes, they > should have done their homework first. Instead, they burden us with yet > another useless document that is dead on arrival, full of errors and very > similar to W-L but without attribution of their contribution. > > > > Of course – all of this criticism can change with supporting experiments > showing neutrons, which they say they are prepared to do - but until this > work is actually done, it makes no sense for us on vortex to keep up this > bickering and recrimination, in defense of their deep ignorance about the > field. > > > > Face it – they are snubbing and ignoring 25 years of LENR history – and it > becomes imperative that they must provide their own data, not more idle > speculation. (we get enough of that here without their help). J > > > > Jones > > > > > > >
