The first thing that should be critiqued is their empirical process and data, 
and then their hypothesis as to the physics… NOT the other way around! Coming 
down on them due to the hypothesis could cause the LENR community to dismiss 
valid data, which could provide some new insights…

-mark iverson

 

From: Bob Higgins [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 12:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

 

I think it is appropriate for forums such as Vortex-L to debate the value of 
new papers.  We should be fair, honest, and not defamatory.  We should not 
impugn the integrity of the authors.  I tried to be fair and explicit in what I 
said.  I would love for the authors to respond on Vortex - lets get at the 
truth.

 

Bob Higgins 

 

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote:

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

 

In short (at the risk of being repetitive) ... this theory is an embarrassment 
to the two guys who proposed it since they did not recognize the insurmountable 
problems.

 

I don't know.  I think it's kind of an interesting time to watch this field -- 
it feels a little like what it might have been like during the dawn of the 
scientific method.  We need to encourage a learning attitude, and people should 
be allowed to make mistakes in public without incurring a stigma.  As the 
authors become better acquainted with nuclear physics, this understanding will 
either modify the approach they take, or at least they'll know which concerns 
to address up front, knowing there will be certain types of complaint (e.g., 
free neutrons, gammas, etc.).

 

The super-harsh critics who watch this kind of attempt and draw scathing 
conclusions about people looking into LENR are not a big concern, in my opinion.

 

We should be encouraging and not take too critical an eye to attempts such as 
the one by Lunden and Lidgren.  In addition, we should be open to fragments of 
insight that might be hidden in such attempts.

 

Eric

 

 

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