As I have said before, the facts are not known with certainty and we need to wait for more data before reaching a conclusion.

Jed says he thinks it it impossible to measure the performance of a black box by measuring the input and output, without knowing how the heat is dissipated from the output. That is clearly not true.

Also, I have seen sufficient number of reports of others finding anomalous heat to be persuaded LENR is real. Others think so too. See www.lenrproof.com

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