--- Frederick Sparber wrote:

> > Given that this kind of efficient electrolysis you
> > have been talking about is a surface effect - why
> > would you not maximize the surface area? such as
> > by switching to a stainless steel foil, instead of
tubes
> > or plates - 

> Sure thing Jones. But the spacing may be a
significant factor

Yes, precisely. In fact the small size (volume) of the
current Joe-Cell is fairly ridiculous, given that the
Helmholtz parameters can only get better by going
larger. For even a small ICE, it would seem that a
10-20 gallon shallow container - minimum- with maybe
100,000 cm^2  of SS foil electrodes might show clearer
results, whereas the much smaller size of Joe is only
working "on occassion" which appears to be the case.

Keep the spacing between the electrode layers nearly
the same as before - and use a porous diffuser plate
underneath the 'jelly roll' so that air must be drawn
accoss the massive surface area of electrodes from
bottom to top - that has been my suggestion to an
associate in OZ, who may have some results to share on
this revised verion of 'super-size-it'  cell soon -
perhaps to be called the CoHLEC or Common-manifold
Helmholtz Layer Electrolysis Cell, pronounced
'collect' ...

So what if the SS foil costs $200 or more wholesale -
you make that back in the first month (first week in
Europe) in savings ... and did you notice how the
Petro-Mafia bumped up the fuel-price for the holiday
weekend - $ 3.85 at Chevron in Cal. for high-grade. It
will only get worse when Iran tests its first nuke in
August <g>

I have put in a 'collect' call to the CEO of Chevron
to remind him of what the artifically high, 'gouging'
to be exact - US price and the Ken-Lay-type-greed of
obscene profits can get you... and its 15-20...

(years not billions) 

Jones



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