--- Frederick Sparber wrote: > > Given that this kind of efficient electrolysis you > > have been talking about is a surface effect - why > > would you not maximize the surface area? such as > > by switching to a stainless steel foil, instead of tubes > > or plates -
> Sure thing Jones. But the spacing may be a significant factor Yes, precisely. In fact the small size (volume) of the current Joe-Cell is fairly ridiculous, given that the Helmholtz parameters can only get better by going larger. For even a small ICE, it would seem that a 10-20 gallon shallow container - minimum- with maybe 100,000 cm^2 of SS foil electrodes might show clearer results, whereas the much smaller size of Joe is only working "on occassion" which appears to be the case. Keep the spacing between the electrode layers nearly the same as before - and use a porous diffuser plate underneath the 'jelly roll' so that air must be drawn accoss the massive surface area of electrodes from bottom to top - that has been my suggestion to an associate in OZ, who may have some results to share on this revised verion of 'super-size-it' cell soon - perhaps to be called the CoHLEC or Common-manifold Helmholtz Layer Electrolysis Cell, pronounced 'collect' ... So what if the SS foil costs $200 or more wholesale - you make that back in the first month (first week in Europe) in savings ... and did you notice how the Petro-Mafia bumped up the fuel-price for the holiday weekend - $ 3.85 at Chevron in Cal. for high-grade. It will only get worse when Iran tests its first nuke in August <g> I have put in a 'collect' call to the CEO of Chevron to remind him of what the artifically high, 'gouging' to be exact - US price and the Ken-Lay-type-greed of obscene profits can get you... and its 15-20... (years not billions) Jones

