Michel Jullian w3rote: > > About calorimetry on the gas, I was wondering, could it be as simple as slow-burning it underwater as it is produced, in a torch whose tip is deeply immersed in a calorimetered bucket of water? > My "lackey" is pushing 82 and wants to try it on an engine "without all of that science stuff". :-) > > Er BTW if haven't done any calorimetry on the gas, what was the Eout in the Ein/Eout=4 ratio you told us about? > I didn't say anything along those lines, did I? Only that adding bicab of soda and borax upped the current from 2.0 milliamperes to over 800. > > Michel > > P.S. About the salt lake lifting experiment, I guess it could be tried in one's bath tub to see how it feels, the good old Archemedes way ;) > Nah. not enough variety of minerals, Michel, and son-in-law said walking on soft crystals along the shore was therapeutic for his feet, which are large enough that he doesn't need water skis. :-)
Fred > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frederick Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "vortex-l" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 10:43 AM > Subject: Re: Helmholtz Layer electrode > > > > BTW, Michel, our flat plate (12 SS plates about 70 cm^2 spaced 1 cm) > > with ~12 volts on the end plates (11 series cells at ~ 1.0 volts) with > > NaHCO3-Borax > > "catalyst" draws ~ 0.8 amps and produces copious gas, but we > > haven't done calorimetry on the gas yet. > > > > As an aside, on a recent swing through Salt Lake city on > > a corporate business trip my son-in-law (still a kid at 50) > > left a day ahead so he could try a swim in the Great Salt Lake. > > He found it a lifting experience. > > Ever since the 5th grade (1943) when I saw a picture of people floating > > on top of the lake I've wanted to try that. Chalk up many son-in-law points > > for him. :-) > > > > Fred > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Frederick Sparber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Date: 5/29/2006 2:18:27 AM > >> Subject: Re: Helmholtz Layer electrode > >> > >> Michel Jullian wrote: > >> > > >> > You guys are talking about Joe Cells as if they worked, do they in your > >> own experience? Last news we had from your experiment 1800 miles away > >> wasn't encouraging IIRC was it Fred? Something about energy out being only > >> a quarter of energy in, which I don't quite understand how it is possible > >> BTW. > >> > > >> Joe Cell Seminar > >> July 30, 2006; Salt Lake City, Utah, USA > >> Immediately Following the ExtraOrdinary Technology Conference > >> 12:30 pm - 5:30 pm > >> > >> http://www.pureenergysystems.com/academy/JoeCell2006/ > >> > >> "Peter Stevens, of NSW Australia, has been installing Joe cells on > > vehicles > >> for about 14 years. In that time, he estimates that he has installed > >> around 80 cells, 40-50 of which are exclusively running on a Joe cell, and > >> 30-40 of which were installed to assist diesel engines, giving them > >> improved efficiency of as much as 50%. He has kept in touch with and > > knows > >> off the top of his head of about 15 cars running with fuel line > >> disconnected." > >> > >> Taken with a gram of table salt, Michel. :-) > >> > >> Fred > >> > > >> > Michel > > snip
