Frederick

Our  12 "wall-plate" electrolysis cell is generating lots of
"Brown's Gas" or H + OH at 0.8 amperes 12 volts (9.6 watts) on the
11 series cells (~1.1 volts/cell)  (10 floating plates) with the
NaHCO3-Borax mix. pH ~ 10.5.

Can you get idea of the thermodynamic balance P-in to P-out ? This is very difficult with Brown's gas, admittedly, as it is hard to be sure what you have, and in what proportions, so measuring the volume of gas means nothing.

One way might be to burn the gas in a controlled way (using a flame/spark arrestor of course, to protect the cell) and heat a large mass for a precise time - say a cast iron skillet. The delta-T should at least be accurate for purposes of making improvements in the same device.

I know it is difficult to pull-off, but I would love to see a comparative study between this kind of BG set-up and something similar in design but with the Stanley Meyer parameters, using distilled water and the high voltage, milliamp current equal to the same ~10 watts, BUT using the neutral plates, which Meyer did not use. Maybe the two setups are incompatible, maybe synergistic. No way to tell without trying it in the same type configuration. That is on my list, pending the outcome of today's Lotto drawing <g>

One thing that I hope you will definitely try in your device is comparing the normal output - versus using "pretreated" water, as is done in the Joe Cell. Basically the pretreatment consists of 12 hours of just the water sitting in an electric field, no electrolyte, connected to a battery charger, for instance. It is drawing no more that a few watts per hour without any electrolyte, because of the low conductivity - but nevertheless becomes activated somehow after hours of this pretreatment.

Jones

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