BTW, Jones.
 
That "pretreatment" can be loading the water with
H2CO3 - H" HCO3 -  plus all the other "acid" atmospheric
gases SO2 & NOx etc.and aldehydes.
 
Ours was sealed at ATM pressure minus 5 inches Hg pressure.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Frederick Sparber
To: vortex-l
Sent: 6/3/2006 2:55:45 PM
Subject: Re: Water-based fuel for the ICE

 
We ran it for several hours with distilled water only
at about 1.9 milliamperes at 12 volts (24 milliwatts). nada gas
 
Can you come with some appropriate incantations Jones? 
>
> One thing that I hope you will definitely try in your device is
> comparing the normal output - versus using "pretreated" water, as
> is done in the Joe Cell. Basically the pretreatment consists of 12
> hours of just the water sitting in an electric field, no
> electrolyte, connected to a battery charger, for instance. It is
> drawing no more that a few watts per hour without any electrolyte,
> because of the low conductivity - but nevertheless becomes
> activated somehow after hours of this pretreatment.
>
> Jones
BTW. Is John Herman "Le Petomain" an old vort
 
John (Herman?) Schnurer? :-)
 
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