Jones Beene wrote: > > Frederick > > > Our 12 "wall-plate" electrolysis cell is generating lots of > > "Brown's Gas" or H + OH at 0.8 amperes 12 volts (9.6 watts) on > > the > > 11 series cells (~1.1 volts/cell) (10 floating plates) with the > > NaHCO3-Borax mix. pH ~ 10.5. > > Can you get idea of the thermodynamic balance P-in to P-out ? This > is very difficult with Brown's gas, admittedly, as it is hard to > be sure what you have, and in what proportions, so measuring the > volume of gas means nothing. > My cohort 1800 miles distance as the crow flies isn't into calorimetry.
Home depot sells those SS blank wall plates for about $1.30 each. or easier yet 1.5 to 2.0 inch diameter 1/4" to 1/2" holes "Fender Washers" stacked in a oversize PVC or clear acrylic tube using insulated rods and spacers puts you in the "Brown's Gas-HHO" business. Fred > > One way might be to burn the gas in a controlled way (using a > flame/spark arrestor of course, to protect the cell) and heat a > large mass for a precise time - say a cast iron skillet. The > delta-T should at least be accurate for purposes of making > improvements in the same device. > > I know it is difficult to pull-off, but I would love to see a > comparative study between this kind of BG set-up and something > similar in design but with the Stanley Meyer parameters, using > distilled water and the high voltage, milliamp current equal to > the same ~10 watts, BUT using the neutral plates, which Meyer did > not use. Maybe the two setups are incompatible, maybe synergistic. > No way to tell without trying it in the same type configuration. > That is on my list, pending the outcome of today's Lotto drawing > <g> > > One thing that I hope you will definitely try in your device is > comparing the normal output - versus using "pretreated" water, as > is done in the Joe Cell. Basically the pretreatment consists of 12 > hours of just the water sitting in an electric field, no > electrolyte, connected to a battery charger, for instance. It is > drawing no more that a few watts per hour without any electrolyte, > because of the low conductivity - but nevertheless becomes > activated somehow after hours of this pretreatment. > > Jones
