Fred
We ran it for several hours with distilled water only
at about 1.9 milliamperes at 12 volts (24 milliwatts). nada gas
Ha - several hours isn't enough. The way you would "preconditon"
the water for later use in the JC, is after about 12 hours - then
use it for the ICE... obviously pure water won't draw enough
current to be used without the preconditioning, and even then may
require some electrolyte.
Maybe the predcondtioning has something to do with actually
changing the water structure (clathrate-like) instead of, or in
addition to, absorbing gases from the atmosphere - or dissolving a
surface film off the electrode.
The Meyer power supply gives copious gas at milliamps but it is at
least *2000* or more volts (up to 20,000 v supposedly in one
incarnation), and has electronic controls, which cycles the pulse
off - when breakdown occurs, which it does at a regular frequency,
depending on the plate separation (about 250 Hz it seems in the
demo).
An optimized BG cell, like yours, at 10 watts should be compared
in gas output to a 10 watt Meyer cell which is presumably
operating at 2000 volts and 10 milliamps and 50% duty or whatever
gives the same P-in.
At that point - perhaps a hybrid can be imagined. In either case
most of the actual "power" (the OU) is not coming from the P-in
but from a surface effect, and certainly the Meyer cell would seem
to benefit the most from more surface area.
Please have a look at that Lawton video clip, if you haven't
already. I was hoping Patrick would post the interesting parts of
the Lawton pdf, if there is real data there - as I don't want to
have to join another forum, just to get it. Yahoo gives me enough
problems as it is.
Can you come with some appropriate incantations Jones?
Well the incantation which needs to be heard is this.
Does the "preconditioning" itself turn pure dieletric water into a
conductive fluid, preumably no longer pure - but such that less
voltage can be used for the same amount of gas, while still
retaining the dieletric properties of pure water in order to get
the "exploding capacitor effect" ?
The story I have heard about Meyer's VW was that the cell was only
using 200 watts to self-power at idle. Presumably, at less voltage
when using a precondtioned water, the results would even be
better - and perhaps with a large area of neutral plates, the net
effect would be to push it from being "on occassion" self-powered
to being "on demand"...
But maybe you can do that with "only" BG techniques, who knows...
Jones
