On Dec 5, 2008, at 12:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:44:40 -0900:
Hi,
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On Dec 5, 2008, at 11:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In reply to  Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 5 Dec 2008 03:49:22
-0900:
Hi,
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Say, it may be that CH gas is being momentarily created in the
process.
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CH is a radical, and would not likely have a long life.

What makes you say CH is a radical?  It is no more a radical than OH.

OH is also a radical, which by definition has at least 1 unpaired valence electron. Carbon has a valence of 4, and Hydrogen of 1, so CH has three unpaired
electrons, OH has 1, since Oxygen has a valence of 2.
The first stable hydrocarbon is CH4 (methane).

Sorry, I was misusing the word radical. I thought you were suggesting the CH would necessarily carry a net charge, like solvated radicals do, and thus would lose its charge as soon as it contacted a metal surface. I have no idea how stable CH is when deposited on a Pt surface. Whatever formed there must easily be broken into CH+ by the mass spectrometer. There is yet another prospect for heating the Pt catalyst as the gas cools - the forming of organic molecules from CH at the Pt surface. Since the deposit is black, it can't be CH4.

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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