R C Macaulay wrote: > Howdy Horace, ... > > We, as a nation, have few remedies for air pollution in China and India, > except as an avenue for Al Gore
I am really tired of the assertion that Al Gore invented the notion of anthropogenic global warming. Do you -- any of you who seem to believe that -- ever read anything which originates outside the United States? Or any actual papers, or scientific journals? Do you *just* read newspapers and watch television? I can't think of any other way you could have come to the conclusion that Gore is the prime mover behind the notion that humans have something to do with warming up the planet. Al Gore is an American politician. He has influence with American left-wingers. But he doesn't carry a lot of weight with the scientific establishment in England, Europe, or even Canada. In fact, Gore doesn't even carry a lot of weight among the right-wing government-funded national lab group -- you know, the folks who work on developing new bombs and stuff like that. Here's a link to an article on some interesting research done at Lawrence Livermore (the lab which is tasked with stockpile stewardship -- I assume you know what that is -- and one of those places where visitors need to be accompanied by a man in black when they go to the bathroom -- not a lot of left-wing dove types work there, believe me): https://publicaffairs.llnl.gov/news/news_releases/2006/NR-06-09-02.html I noticed this article when they featured it on the front page of the main LLNL website a couple years back. It's a bit old at this point and has been relegated to the back pages. Quote from the article: > Using 22 different computer models of the climate system, atmospheric > scientists from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and ten other > research centers have shown that the warming of the tropical Atlantic > and Pacific oceans over the last century is directly linked to human > activities. > > For the period 1906-2005, the researchers found an 84 percent chance > that external forcing (such as human-caused increases in greenhouse > gases, ozone and various aerosol particles) accounts for at least 67 > percent of the observed rise in SSTs in the Atlantic and Pacific > hurricane formation regions. In both regions, human-caused increases > in greenhouse gases were found to be the main driver of the 20th > century warming of SSTs. This report came out on 11 September 2006, at the height of the Bush presidency. I don't think the liberal establishment had a lot to do with it. Please note that Al Gore is not employed at LLNL.

