Sorry, you are absolutely right. I suggest this is the way the list can be handled without Bill having to get involved at all.

Ed
On Jun 16, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Alexander Hollins wrote:

And at this point, this part of the conversation should move to B or
stop completely.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Edmund Storms<[email protected]> wrote:
How do you know this? What aspect of his behavior to you find normal? Of course everyone has quarks. The issue is the degree and consistency of these characteristics. In addition, I'm using this word as a catchall. Insanity has many characteristics too numerous to discuss here. My point is only that Grok does not show normal behavior in that his reality cannot be changed by rational discussion and he shows an addiction to a very characteristic pattern of behavior. While more information is needed to discover if he is physically harmful to himself and others, the usual concern, his harm in the circumstance we experienced is obvious. Of course, he might just be a jerk who likes to cause trouble. Even if this is true, I would rather treat him
as if he were insane, which simplifies dealing with him.

Ed

On Jun 16, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:



----- Original Message -----
From: Edmund Storms <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:08 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Discussion/Debate: Creating [VoT] to handle OT
discussions.

I agree with John, managing and contributing to one list is hard
enough without adding to the problem by using multiple lists. Most
people on this list are adults and should be able to agree on
something so simple as when political or religious discussion gets
to
be too much without forcing a total ban on both.

I find the effect that Grok had on this group to be discouraging.
If
one insane person can cause such turmoil on such a small scale to
intelligent people, I rest my case about the damage they do to the
world in general and the need to understand this type of behavior.

Ed


Grok may be unflattering and annoying but he is not insane.
Harry






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