But Jeff, artifacts do exist. They have been seen by people and described in detail. Granted, you are not allowed to see them, but is that required for you to believe? In addition, the abductees describe conditions in the space crafts and instruments used for examination that are in many cases identical even though this information is not generally known and the various abductees never talked to each other. In addition, physical evidence in the form of changes in soil properties and indentations where the craft landed have been described in detail. Although the aliens are well ahead of us in science, we do not need to explain their existence by using excessive imagination, as I think you have done.

As for the universe being empty of life except ours, this is simply not a rational possibility. The earth is a late comer to the universe. We should expect life that formed on older planets than ours to be more advanced.

Ed


On Aug 1, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Fink wrote:

Could we all consider the possibility that the sightings and abductions reported over the years were experienced in a manner that bypassed the five senses and were sent directly to a person's brain by entities that cannot effectively manipulate matter and energy but operate outside the "real" world. That would explain why we have no authentic UFO artifacts. Somebody is trying very hard to make us think there are real aliens in our universe, when perhaps there are none. They have a purpose, and it is important to them that the human race believes in space aliens. They wouldn't have to do this if there actually were some. Maybe the universe to this point really
is an awful waste of space.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: OrionWorks [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 11:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

From Jed:

OrionWorks wrote:

I'm under the impression that you have not looked into this subject to
any great extent.

That is correct. That's why I asked how many pilots have reported
anomalies.


. . . your comments about the reliability of the pilots you've known
seems
uncharacteristically anecdotal.

It is completely anecdotal and not to be taken seriously. However, I have met quite a number of weirdo pilots, with very odd beliefs, especially
ones
who resemble Gen. Jack D. Ripper in Dr. Strangelove. So there are at least some you should not trust. It wouldn't take many to introduce a little
noise
in the data set, with one or two reports per year.

I wished I had had the chance to have been introduced to your mother.
I think I would have learned a lot listening to her and subsequently
discussing the subtleties of various perceptions.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



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