-----Original Message----- From: Stephen A. Lawrence Do you by any chance have a URL?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aH-gen Look for messages in 2005-6 from George, Dennis Cravens, Terry and one Dutch guy. Forget Frolov, as he was part of the problem. Here is the present gifnet site where they have apparently removed the bad data of COP ~20 - and replaced it with more defensible results of about COP ~2.5, so I stand corrected on that. http://www.gifnet.org/MAHG/The%20Moller%27s%20Atomic%20Hydrogen%20Generator. htm In fact, the claim of COP ~2.5 is in keeping with many reports of similar phenomena, and this now seems to be worthy of another look. SL: He's using the Fluke 123 "true RMS" digital scope, with graphical output, to measure amps and volts. If there's any division by twenty going on it's not documented on that page. Not in 2005-6, when the erroneous claims were being heavily promoted. He was using a clamp-on and manually dividing by 20. The problem was, back in 2005-6 the false claim of COP > 20 was never retracted while there was still major interest, but Gifnet has toned down everything now, and perhaps there could be something to it ... now that Naudin has apparently learned to measure input. But he has still not retracted from his own site, apparently. Jones
