-----Original Message----- From: Stephen A. Lawrence > If JLN was reading peak amps and dividing by 20 to get RMS amps, then he was off by a factor of about 4.5. Square output with a 5% duty cycle has an RMS value of 1/sqrt(20) times the peak value. [snip] But neither of these scenarios produces a result which is off by a factor of 20.
Twenty is probably not realistic to even Naudin, given the Gifnet page and the more modest claim. The reason that it was so exciting, back then in 2005 was that this would offer a way towards self-power. No skeptic of Casimir/ZPE can deny self power, but thermoelectrics are only about 5% efficient - so a high COP is needed. I think the most defensible claim for 2010 is going to be COP> 2-2.5 as is seen in the table on the Gifnet site. Naudin may not have upgraded his page in years. This current page looks like what they are now promoting as realistic. I am assuming Naudin still works for Moller (at least partly as a consultant) but that may not be true. They (Gifnet) have the most to lose if this is grossly in error. It looks like they are well funded. There is nothing obviously wrong with this claim, as it now stands, that I can see (other than it is non-conservative). Do you have a problem with it based on the data ? However, I do NOT find the "atomic hydrogen" hypothesis for the gain very convincing, and given the low Delta-T, the "O-P Pump" which was the explanation given in the previous posting - has not been ruled out as the best available hypothesis. Don't forget that lots of tungsten is *sputtered* inside that big tube. That does not necessarily guarantee the availability of Casimir cavities, but it strongly indicates that they would be there. The cavities could produce the low temperature equivalent of "space", which would tilt the O-P ratio towards spin degeneracy, giving up energy. The excess energy would then be recouped in the cavity by the zero point field. Jones
