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From: Stephen A. Lawrence 

> If the "current" RMS value is off by a similar factor, then
the measured input power is off by a factor 3.5^2 -- it's about 12 times
too small.

Thanks for the excellent analysis. This seems about right. And also thanks
for dredging up this important experiment for a relook, but with the benefit
of a few years of hindsight.

An important point remains - the data table on the Gifnet site does indicate
*substantial OU* and in a usable range of many Watts. For instance, look at
lines 20 and 24 on that Table about half way down this page:

http://www.gifnet.org/MAHG/The%20Moller%27s%20Atomic%20Hydrogen%20Generator.
htm

Especially line 24, with a 570 watt gain, and net output over 1 kW thermal,
and COP>2.

That 570 watt gain blows anything ever achieved in LENR experiments out of
the water in terms of robustness, AFAIK. 

Think about this: the gain above was with plain H2 and what is probably a
suboptimum metal matrix.

What would the gain be with the simple substitution of D2 for H2 ? 

... or heck - do not stop there: what about prior codeposition of Pd-D2 on
the tube wall?

IOW - this is the kind of large scale near-commercial format, but in a
prototype with heating value near the 1 kW level, needed for space heating.
This is the kind of robust usable gain that LENR has begged for over twenty
years, and not yet seen.

But is it LENR? I would bet a dollar to a donut hole, that a test for
transmutation of the sputtered W on the tube would find a number of
transmutation products.

Jones



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