Can we make the assumption that since the temperature is well above 100 C inside the output piping heading toward the condensers that the steam must be of very high quality? It seems to me that the condensers are capable of totally condensing the vapor so that the pressure within this pipe must be very near atmospheric. I suspect that there is enough information hidden within the data to determine that the test was a major success. I direct these questions toward our resident experts in steam systems as they would know this immediately.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jouni Valkonen <jounivalko...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Sat, Oct 29, 2011 4:29 am Subject: [Vo]:Some calculations, discussion and accurate temperature graph Here is the temperature graphs with more accurate time stamps: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28230378/oct28demo.png And some simple calculations: Water flow rate: 675.6 l/h Temperature above 100°C: 12:34 nd of dataset: 18:24 Total time: 350 min (5h 50 min) Heating period: Started: 11:00 / Ended: 12:34 otal: 94 min Energy for heating metal mass: 400 MJ nergy for heating 1060 kg water: 375 MJ otal: 775 MJ / 137 kW Here we see that most of the electric input that was allegedly upplied to the device went for initial heating. Total water volume of 107 E-Cats was 2700 liters. If they can give proof that non vaporized water was just 5 kg, then est should be valid. Simple proof would be that if they measured the ater flow rate from the heat dissipator. This would be valid ndicator, because there was still plenty of empty water storage apacity inside E-Cats when water started boiling. Therefore only team escaped. However, if they did not measure the flow rate, then it is difficult o establish with certainty that all steam was really vaporized. owever I would think that used water trap was sufficient to collect on-vaporized water. At least within one order of magnitude. Therefore I would think that test appears to be valid and indeed E-Cat as producing at least 7 GJ energy with average power of 340 kW. This is the lower limit. Maximum power output was 12 GJ and 550 kW ower. Min and max possible power levels were determined how much ater was remaining stored inside E-Cats and pipes after the demo nded. As input was used almost fully for initial heating of the E-Cat array, otal COP was 400:(1/∞). I do not know the total imported heating nergy, but I assume here that it was below 770 MJ. And also I do not now how much input was remaining in alleged 350 min self-sustaining eriod. I assumed that it was zero. However, this test was by no means made by independed scientists. herefore I do not see how this could be a proof for successful alidation, because there is no way that hidden power sources are xcluded. Therefore, I do not expect mass media attention. This is xtremely sad situation, because I am tired of listening skepstics' ssertions considering the validity of the technology. However, contract that was signed stands that the energy was produced y the means of cold fusion reactions. Therefore if this is a hoax, hen it could be considered as a breach of contract, therefore ustomer has right to demand compensation if they have paid anything or the Dr. Rossi. Therefore, it seems to be valid technology. However we need some urther information from Bologna University considering long term erformance. –Jouni
