Jed, I am among. I simply meant to say that Fioravanti can have a legal degree in engineering, but he does not need to be registered among the "Ordine degli Ingegneri" to make a report for his employer. On the other hand if he is a "consultant" then it is very likely that he will (or has by now) make a full report with legal value (i.e. equivalent to a contract with related acquittance) he needs to have the registration id from the Ordine. In any case many with engineering diploma do not care to register unless strictly required, because: 1) you need to pass an exam. 2) you need to pay each year. But are called "Ingegnere" even if the correct term would be "Dottore in Ingegneria" so reading Ing. in front of a name does not imply being registered to the "Ordine degli Ingegneri" unless the document is a public contract.
HTH mic > Michele Comitini pointed out that Fioravanti does not have to be registered: > > "Also if the customer does not need a certification of the plant with legal > value, for instance because Fioravanti works for the customer, there is no > need for him to be on the register to do an internal report." > I am not sure what you mean. Perhaps you mean that Fioravanti would not need > a license as long as he is not working to install or certify a boiler for a > customer. I assume he is licensed because he is referred to in the document > as "Engineer" and "Ing." I assume that is similar to the English "P.E." > (professional engineer) which people append to the name. That means you have > a license. It is like "MD" (medical doctor). You would get into legal > trouble if you say you are "PE" or "MD" but you are not. > Assuming he is a PE then he would get into trouble for signing a fraudulent > report under any circumstances, for any purpose, whether it is internal for > his own company or for a customer. In the U.S. he would get in trouble. > Just because you are a PE, I do not know if that means you are registered > anywhere, in Italy. I do not know how that works. I believe all U.S. PE and > MDs are registered, and probably they are all on line these days. Retired > MDs are not. Their license to practice is lapsed. > > - Jed >
