Jed,

sorry I deleted a piece of the first sentence...

I wrote: "I am among those that don't have a clear writing as yours..."

mic

2011/10/30 Michele Comitini <michele.comit...@gmail.com>:
> Jed,
>
> I am among. I simply meant to say that Fioravanti can have a legal
> degree in engineering, but he does not need to
> be registered among the "Ordine degli Ingegneri" to make a report for
> his employer.  On the other hand
> if he is a "consultant" then it is very likely that he will (or has by
> now) make a full report with legal value (i.e. equivalent to a
> contract with related acquittance) he needs to have the registration
> id from the Ordine.
> In any case many with engineering diploma do not care to register
> unless strictly required,
> because:
> 1) you need to pass an exam.
> 2) you need to pay each year.
> But are called "Ingegnere" even if the correct term would be "Dottore
> in Ingegneria" so reading Ing. in front of a name does not imply being
> registered
> to the "Ordine degli Ingegneri" unless the document is a public contract.
>
> HTH
> mic
>
>
>> Michele Comitini pointed out that Fioravanti does not have to be registered:
>>
>> "Also if the customer does not need a certification of the plant with legal
>> value, for instance because Fioravanti works for the customer, there is no
>> need for him to be on the register to do an internal report."
>> I am not sure what you mean. Perhaps you mean that Fioravanti would not need
>> a license as long as he is not working to install or certify a boiler for a
>> customer. I assume he is licensed because he is referred to in the document
>> as "Engineer" and "Ing." I assume that is similar to the English "P.E."
>> (professional engineer) which people append to the name. That means you have
>> a license. It is like "MD" (medical doctor). You would get into legal
>> trouble if you say you are "PE" or "MD" but you are not.
>> Assuming he is a PE then he would get into trouble for signing a fraudulent
>> report under any circumstances, for any purpose, whether it is internal for
>> his own company or for a customer. In the U.S. he would get in trouble.
>> Just because you are a PE, I do not know if that means you are registered
>> anywhere, in Italy. I do not know how that works. I believe all U.S. PE and
>> MDs are registered, and probably they are all on line these days. Retired
>> MDs are not. Their license to practice is lapsed.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>

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