Jed, sorry I deleted a piece of the first sentence...
I wrote: "I am among those that don't have a clear writing as yours..." mic 2011/10/30 Michele Comitini <michele.comit...@gmail.com>: > Jed, > > I am among. I simply meant to say that Fioravanti can have a legal > degree in engineering, but he does not need to > be registered among the "Ordine degli Ingegneri" to make a report for > his employer. On the other hand > if he is a "consultant" then it is very likely that he will (or has by > now) make a full report with legal value (i.e. equivalent to a > contract with related acquittance) he needs to have the registration > id from the Ordine. > In any case many with engineering diploma do not care to register > unless strictly required, > because: > 1) you need to pass an exam. > 2) you need to pay each year. > But are called "Ingegnere" even if the correct term would be "Dottore > in Ingegneria" so reading Ing. in front of a name does not imply being > registered > to the "Ordine degli Ingegneri" unless the document is a public contract. > > HTH > mic > > >> Michele Comitini pointed out that Fioravanti does not have to be registered: >> >> "Also if the customer does not need a certification of the plant with legal >> value, for instance because Fioravanti works for the customer, there is no >> need for him to be on the register to do an internal report." >> I am not sure what you mean. Perhaps you mean that Fioravanti would not need >> a license as long as he is not working to install or certify a boiler for a >> customer. I assume he is licensed because he is referred to in the document >> as "Engineer" and "Ing." I assume that is similar to the English "P.E." >> (professional engineer) which people append to the name. That means you have >> a license. It is like "MD" (medical doctor). You would get into legal >> trouble if you say you are "PE" or "MD" but you are not. >> Assuming he is a PE then he would get into trouble for signing a fraudulent >> report under any circumstances, for any purpose, whether it is internal for >> his own company or for a customer. In the U.S. he would get in trouble. >> Just because you are a PE, I do not know if that means you are registered >> anywhere, in Italy. I do not know how that works. I believe all U.S. PE and >> MDs are registered, and probably they are all on line these days. Retired >> MDs are not. Their license to practice is lapsed. >> >> - Jed >> >