On Dec 27, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 01:01 PM 12/27/2011, Horace Heffner wrote:
On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
Transmutations are not observed with any clean correlation with
excess heat. Some experiments produce more, some less. Levels of
transmuted products other than helium are produced at far lower
levels than helium, many orders of magnitude lower.
This is far from true. Transmutation products have been detected by
chemical means, and XRF. This requires large quantities of product.
Horace, can you provide a reference for this. It contradicts what
I've understood.
As I noted, this was discussed with references on page 1 of:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/CFnuclearReactions.pdf
See references: 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20. Reference 14 is
good, for example:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IwamuraYobservatiob.pdf
"Transmutation of Cs into Pr was demonstrated in more than 60 cases,
with reproducibility close to 100%."
Thus the results were highly repeatable. No electrolysis was used to
accomplish the transmutations, just gas flow. "The Pr was cross-
checked by various methods such as XPS, TOF-SIMS (Time of Flight
Secondary Ion Mass Spectrometry), XANES (X-ray Absorption Near Edge
Structure), XRF and ICP-MS (Inductively Coupled Plasma Mass
Spectrometry)."
Analysis was performed in situ, before and after using XREF, thus
avoiding contamination. Check the references at the end of this and
other articles for more information.
To be sure, I'm talking about widely reported results, not about
isolated reports.
Baloney. What widely reported results of a single experiment are
there in this field? Lack f interest in replication has always been
a problem in this field. Every researcher wants to get in his "ego
mods". There are more theories than researchers. The fact is almost
any researcher that looks for transmutations in LENR experiments
finds them.
This is one of the great mysteries of LENR - the vast amount of
nuclear reactions involved in heavy element transmutation, without
the corresponding excess heat. It is explanation of this
experimental observation that is one of the strong points of
deflation fusion theory.
Please specify the "experimental observation." Quantitatively.
Various techniques have been used to detect extremely small
quantities of transmuted elements on cathode surfaces, but this
work is hampered by the "garbage collector" characteristic of an
electrolytic cathode, it attracts cations from the tiniest
impurities in cell materials, one can find almost anything on a
cold fusion cathode. However, my understanding has been that the
detected quantities, compared to the helium found to be correlated
with the FPHE, are far lower. I.e., typical tritium results might
be a production of about 10^11 atoms of tritium, compared to, say,
10^14 atoms of helium. That's about three orders of magnitude down.
Take a look at Fig. 2 of reference 10:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MileyGHreviewoftr.pdf
The y axis is in units of 10^14 atoms/cm^2. Many transmutation
results exceed He concentrations from D+D experiments, and the
products are much easier to count reliably.
Theories that account for D+D-->He account for only a tiny part of
the mysteries of cold fusion, a little corner of the field.
The major mystery is the lack of corresponding heat and very high
energy particles that can be expected from heavy element
transmutation. This is what my theory addresses. It also happens to
cover the more "ordinary" X+p, X+D and D+D results.
A lack of heat from various heavy element experiments constitutes a
violation of conservation of energy. Pretty darn strange this gets
swept under the rug, ignored, isn't it! That puts a twist in some
knickers I'll bet. Its a huge elephant in the room. I stinks and
bellows and breaks china, yet is completely ignored. It is a
potential source of derision. Life was difficult enough on folks like
Bockris at TAMU, just from the cold fusion fiasco.
My understanding has been that in most reports, other transmuted
elements are at even lower numbers.
Most reports is not all reports, it still leaves many reports, some
focused strictly on heavy LENR. Light water experiments can produce
transmutations, and helium is not even an issue. Also, there is much
literature on transmutation observations. It seems you are up on D+D
in Pd but not much on heavy element transmutation. It is well worth
the trouble to read up on it. I think the real mysteries of LENR,
and the greatest opportunities for amateur work, lie in the heavy
element transmutations. Overcoming the Coulomb barrier is much more
difficult to explain when it happens into a nucleus with 28 protons,
vs just one. With long run times transmutatin experiments might be
much better subject matter for high school lab experiments. They
provide an opportunity for some real life applied chemistry, instead
of cookbook chemistry.
[Snip the preaching of the text I already know.]
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
