What's to check out? We've "been there done that" over the years with
krytrons - and it is a complete dead end, as is the modern-day Papp engine.

 

BTW Papp had no surplus capital, and would not have patented any device as
having radiation, only to fool "competitors". even if there were any
competitors, which there were none. 

 

Krytrons are well-known, lossy, and have one main use - to trigger implosion
devices. where the fast sharp pulse with no delay - is of highest important.
Which is another reason why one does not even want to mention them too often
on a public forum. They are tightly regulated.

 

As a tetrode with constant glow, the krytron is in probably in the range of
50% efficiency at most. Why bother?

 

 

From: James Bowery 

 

For the third time: Check out Krytron technology!!!  It used a small amount
of radioactive Nickel to speed the rise time of the discharge.  Papp almost
certainly used Radium for the same purpose.

Quoting "Spark Gap <http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/sparkgaps.html>  and
Triggered Gap Tubes":

The krytron is a high speed, high current gas filled tube. This tube can
switch thousands of amps at thousands of volts. It is similar to a thyratron
except that it is a 4 terminal device. The fourth terminal is a "keep alive"
electrode that maintains a glow discharge in the tube at all times. This
make the tube much faster and the timing more uniform. There is also a small
amount of radioactive Nickel in the tube. The ionization helps further
stabilize the propagation delay.


On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think James could be correct that the choice of noble gases is NOT a
stage
> prop.
>
> However, and once again - keep in mind that Papp used radium as his prime
> energy source, and his patent makes this clear... the noble gases he used
> could have been important but ancillary in a surprising way.
>
> Papp's original IP is entitled: "Method & Means of Converting Atomic
Energy
> Into Utilizable Kinetic Energy". The Rohner's and other scammers who came
> along later have clearer wanted to dodge this all-important issue of
nuclear
> power, because they cannot legally obtain radium, which is probably the
sine
> qua non for a working Papp engine. They cannot work without it.
>
> The most interesting detail, for real science - is why Papp used this
> particular mix instead of hydrogen. It probably was important and NOT a
> stage prop, as mentioned. This rationale could actually involve a real
> discovery by him - and it could related to gas interaction with an alpha
> emitter. That would be especially true of helium - which is the bulk of
the
> mix, and is essentially a neutralized alpha.
>
> In short, the real discovery of Papp, unbeknownst to even himself, could
> relate to quantum correlation fields and entanglement.
>
> Here is my favorite citation for "wisdom from comic books"
> http://marvel.wikia.com/Probability_field
>
> ....and it is strangely apropos for fringe inventor and his 300 mph
> submarine.
>
> Jones
>
>                 From: James Bowery
>
>                 Observing all the trouble Papp went to during the fueling
of
> his engine, it is rather difficult to believe that the noble gas was a
mere
> stage prop.
>                 See:
>                 http://inteligentry.com/shared/PappW/4-Fueling.mp4
>                 Jojo Jaro wrote:
>
>                 Funny, but Papp may have found a clever and "magician
trick"
> way of running an internal combustion engine making it appear to be
> overunity.  With the process appearing to work with normal air, and now
> hydrogen, the noble gas "mixture" may just have been a convenient and
> effective "magician's sleight of hand technique" to divert attention from
> his engine just being an ordinary Internal Combustion Engine.  Everybody
was
> focusing on the "novelty" of using a certain "magic formula" of noble
gases
> that nobody bothered to check the energy balance.  I believe this is what
> happened.
>
>

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