My response to Axil was prompted by his hypothesis that the critical parameter was minimizing rise time and peak power of the "ignition" pulse. The efficiency of the pulse generator is of virtually no significance if it is an ignitor of a larger energy source. I'm not saying I believe Axil's hypothesis about plasma shock waves -- I just don't know. What I do know is that if there is an anomalous effect it is a lot more likely to appear in regimes which are rarely achieved in commonly available devices.
As for your concern about Krytrons being tightly regulated, I'm not talking about producing Krytrons -- I'm talking about looking at their mechanism of action for a clue since the Papp system seems to have much in common. Indeed, if we are to suppose that some sort of nuclear energy source is involved in the Papp engine, then it is _likely_ to involve an extrema in rise time and peak power. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > As a tetrode with constant glow, the krytron is in probably in the range > of 50% efficiency at most. Why bother? > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* James Bowery **** > > ** ** > > For the third time: Check out Krytron technology!!! It used a small > amount of radioactive Nickel to speed the rise time of the discharge. Papp > almost certainly used Radium for the same purpose. > > Quoting "Spark Gap and Triggered Gap > Tubes<http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/sparkgaps.html> > ":**** > > The krytron is a high speed, high current gas filled tube. This tube can > switch thousands of amps at thousands of volts. It is similar to a > thyratron except that it is a 4 terminal device. The fourth terminal is a > "keep alive" electrode that maintains a glow discharge in the tube at all > times. This make the tube much faster and the timing more uniform. There is > also a small amount of radioactive Nickel in the tube. The ionization helps > further stabilize the propagation delay.**** > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > > I think James could be correct that the choice of noble gases is NOT a > stage > > prop. > > > > However, and once again - keep in mind that Papp used radium as his prime > > energy source, and his patent makes this clear... the noble gases he used > > could have been important but ancillary in a surprising way. > > > > Papp's original IP is entitled: "Method & Means of Converting Atomic > Energy > > Into Utilizable Kinetic Energy". The Rohner's and other scammers who came > > along later have clearer wanted to dodge this all-important issue of > nuclear > > power, because they cannot legally obtain radium, which is probably the > sine > > qua non for a working Papp engine. They cannot work without it. > > > > The most interesting detail, for real science - is why Papp used this > > particular mix instead of hydrogen. It probably was important and NOT a > > stage prop, as mentioned. This rationale could actually involve a real > > discovery by him - and it could related to gas interaction with an alpha > > emitter. That would be especially true of helium - which is the bulk of > the > > mix, and is essentially a neutralized alpha. > > > > In short, the real discovery of Papp, unbeknownst to even himself, could > > relate to quantum correlation fields and entanglement. > > > > Here is my favorite citation for "wisdom from comic books" > > http://marvel.wikia.com/Probability_field > > > > ....and it is strangely apropos for fringe inventor and his 300 mph > > submarine. > > > > Jones > > > > From: James Bowery > > > > Observing all the trouble Papp went to during the > fueling of > > his engine, it is rather difficult to believe that the noble gas was a > mere > > stage prop. > > See: > > http://inteligentry.com/shared/PappW/4-Fueling.mp4 > > Jojo Jaro wrote: > > > > Funny, but Papp may have found a clever and "magician > trick" > > way of running an internal combustion engine making it appear to be > > overunity. With the process appearing to work with normal air, and now > > hydrogen, the noble gas "mixture" may just have been a convenient and > > effective "magician's sleight of hand technique" to divert attention from > > his engine just being an ordinary Internal Combustion Engine. Everybody > was > > focusing on the "novelty" of using a certain "magic formula" of noble > gases > > that nobody bothered to check the energy balance. I believe this is what > > happened. > > > >**** >
