Yes, he tried air in a past trial and air expantion was greater than the noble gas mix. Popping air caused all sorts of chemical reactions and was smelly. Hydrogen expantion is the most powerful so far.
Cheers:Axil On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 8:33 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > Thanks for posting the link to this interesting experimentation Axil. I > do not recall Russ stating that he tried normal room air in a test. Do you > know whether or not he tried this? It would seem like an obvious thing to > do. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Sat, Sep 29, 2012 5:26 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Open Source Papp Update > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBWiWftGknI&list=UULuDKTNDFfat7iO7KGE7fQA&index=1&feature=plcp > Russ > got the popper to work using hydrogen in a proof of principle exercise. The > force produced by the hydrogen gas expansion is substantial and there also > seems to be an electric charge feedback happening. Cheers: Axil > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM, ecat builder <ecatbuil...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi Vortex, >> >> Some updates on Papp development.. Which most of you know is a noble gas >> that is charged (by RF/spark) and drives a piston with an unexplained (?) >> force. Harvesting the force and residual energy to produce overunity power >> remains to be seen. >> >> http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:Plasma_Energy_Controls_Plasma_Expansion_Motor >> >> >> >> An open source Papp Engine based on Bob's design is being built by a 26 >> yr old whiz named Russ. >> He has made great progress in just a few weeks-- a cylinder based on >> Bob's test unit, spark generator, gas system, and more. >> I'm sure he'll be looking for ideas on how to mix and test noble gas >> mixtures. >> >> http://rwgresearch.com/ >> https://www.youtube.com/user/rwg42985?feature=g-user-u >> http://www.open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=659 >> Bob is chiming in with feedback, which is great to see. The forum is at >> 12 pages and is filled with interesting tidbits. >> >> >> Here is a (self-taught?) Dannel Roberts and his visit to Bob's shop. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_zWJNyoFgJM >> Starting at 22:40 is Robert's theory of how the Papp engine creates a >> bang... >> >> >> Chuck (a LENR replicator) received his Popper Kit from John. It contains >> 15 pages of design/build notes and has a signal generator to drive 2 >> included spark coils. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lFt_q69dxk&feature=plcp >> >> Bob Rohner has also produced a few new movies, one warning of the >> potential dangers of building a popper.. another showing the system running >> without a coil, dispelling the thought that the coil could be the source of >> the force, showing that compressed air is not used. >> http://www.rohnermachine.com/pagedocuments.html >> https://www.youtube.com/user/bjrohner?feature=g-user-u >> >> All very interesting, but a lot of power is going in (300 joules?) so a >> lot of work, luck, and miracles may still be needed. >> >> - Brad >> >> >> >
