http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FIrjnrTYofc



Russ tries helium in video 12.



Cheers:    Axil



On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> If shockwave production is central to the Papp reaction,  it may be
> possible to build a Papp generator without the need for a piston.
>
> Here is my reasoning:
>
> When the spark fires, a shock wave will form, expand, and travel down the
> length of the tube. This wave is comprised of a shockwave front of both
> electrons and ions. The electrons will move down the tube far faster than
> the positive protons because they are 2000 times lighter.
>
> This shockwave will produce a large electric current along the axis of the
> tube parallel to its length.
>
> This flow of electrons will produce a huge magnetic field that will be
> emanated accorting to the right hand rule with the thumb pointing in the
> direction of shockwave travel.
>
> The magnetic field will circle the circumference of the tube and be
> oriented parallel to it.
>
> A network of a large number of thin copper wires can be arrayed along the
> length of the tube on its outside surface and parallel to its length
> direction, which also happens to be the direction of travel of the
> shockwave.
>
> The end of each element of this multi-wire mesh can then be connected at
> the ends of each of these equally long elements to a common connector at
> two opposing junctions just beyond each end of the tube.
>
> This mesh of parallel wires can now convert the rapidly changing magnetic
> flux as it expands and contracts to electric power that can be rectified
> and stored in capacitors.
>
> This power generated my the mesh can be added to the feedback power
> produced by plasma collapse of the shockwave that is usually found in Papp
> engines.
>
> If the mesh of wires is thick enough, all the rapidly changing magnetic
> flux lines can be converted to electricity at maximum efficiency without
> the need for any mechanical moving parts.
>
> Additionally from the perspective of experimentation, if magnetic field
> lines can be detected when the Papp engine is fired, the production of a
> shockwave will be both verified and quantified.
>
>
>
>
> Cheers:    Axil
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM, ecat builder <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Vortex,
>>
>> Some updates on Papp development.. Which most of you know is a noble gas
>> that is charged (by RF/spark) and drives a piston with an unexplained (?)
>> force. Harvesting the force and residual energy to produce overunity power
>> remains to be seen.
>>
>> http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:Plasma_Energy_Controls_Plasma_Expansion_Motor
>>
>>
>>
>> An open source Papp Engine based on Bob's design is being built by a 26
>> yr old whiz named Russ.
>> He has made great progress in just a few weeks-- a cylinder based on
>> Bob's test unit, spark generator, gas system, and more.
>> I'm sure he'll be looking for ideas on how to mix and test noble gas
>> mixtures.
>>
>> http://rwgresearch.com/
>> https://www.youtube.com/user/rwg42985?feature=g-user-u
>> http://www.open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=659
>> Bob is chiming in with feedback, which is great to see. The forum is at
>> 12 pages and is filled with interesting tidbits.
>>
>>
>> Here is a (self-taught?) Dannel Roberts and his visit to Bob's shop.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_zWJNyoFgJM
>> Starting at 22:40 is Robert's theory of how the Papp engine creates a
>> bang...
>>
>>
>> Chuck (a LENR replicator) received his Popper Kit from John. It contains
>> 15 pages of design/build notes and has a signal generator to drive 2
>> included spark coils.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lFt_q69dxk&feature=plcp
>>
>> Bob Rohner has also produced a few new movies, one warning of the
>> potential dangers of building a popper.. another showing the system running
>> without a coil, dispelling the thought that the coil could be the source of
>> the force, showing that compressed air is not used.
>> http://www.rohnermachine.com/pagedocuments.html
>> https://www.youtube.com/user/bjrohner?feature=g-user-u
>>
>> All very interesting, but a lot of power is going in (300 joules?) so a
>> lot of work, luck, and miracles may still be needed.
>>
>> - Brad
>>
>>
>>
>

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