Greetings Vortex-L, Shock Wave Disc Engine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_disk_engine
Respectfully, Ron Kita, Chiralex On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FIrjnrTYofc > > > > Russ tries helium in video 12. > > > > Cheers: Axil > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > >> If shockwave production is central to the Papp reaction, it may be >> possible to build a Papp generator without the need for a piston. >> >> Here is my reasoning: >> >> When the spark fires, a shock wave will form, expand, and travel down the >> length of the tube. This wave is comprised of a shockwave front of both >> electrons and ions. The electrons will move down the tube far faster than >> the positive protons because they are 2000 times lighter. >> >> This shockwave will produce a large electric current along the axis of >> the tube parallel to its length. >> >> This flow of electrons will produce a huge magnetic field that will be >> emanated accorting to the right hand rule with the thumb pointing in the >> direction of shockwave travel. >> >> The magnetic field will circle the circumference of the tube and be >> oriented parallel to it. >> >> A network of a large number of thin copper wires can be arrayed along the >> length of the tube on its outside surface and parallel to its length >> direction, which also happens to be the direction of travel of the >> shockwave. >> >> The end of each element of this multi-wire mesh can then be connected at >> the ends of each of these equally long elements to a common connector at >> two opposing junctions just beyond each end of the tube. >> >> This mesh of parallel wires can now convert the rapidly changing magnetic >> flux as it expands and contracts to electric power that can be rectified >> and stored in capacitors. >> >> This power generated my the mesh can be added to the feedback power >> produced by plasma collapse of the shockwave that is usually found in Papp >> engines. >> >> If the mesh of wires is thick enough, all the rapidly changing magnetic >> flux lines can be converted to electricity at maximum efficiency without >> the need for any mechanical moving parts. >> >> Additionally from the perspective of experimentation, if magnetic field >> lines can be detected when the Papp engine is fired, the production of a >> shockwave will be both verified and quantified. >> >> >> >> >> Cheers: Axil >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM, ecat builder <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hi Vortex, >>> >>> Some updates on Papp development.. Which most of you know is a noble gas >>> that is charged (by RF/spark) and drives a piston with an unexplained (?) >>> force. Harvesting the force and residual energy to produce overunity power >>> remains to be seen. >>> >>> http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:Plasma_Energy_Controls_Plasma_Expansion_Motor >>> >>> >>> >>> An open source Papp Engine based on Bob's design is being built by a 26 >>> yr old whiz named Russ. >>> He has made great progress in just a few weeks-- a cylinder based on >>> Bob's test unit, spark generator, gas system, and more. >>> I'm sure he'll be looking for ideas on how to mix and test noble gas >>> mixtures. >>> >>> http://rwgresearch.com/ >>> https://www.youtube.com/user/rwg42985?feature=g-user-u >>> http://www.open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=659 >>> Bob is chiming in with feedback, which is great to see. The forum is at >>> 12 pages and is filled with interesting tidbits. >>> >>> >>> Here is a (self-taught?) Dannel Roberts and his visit to Bob's shop. >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_zWJNyoFgJM >>> Starting at 22:40 is Robert's theory of how the Papp engine creates a >>> bang... >>> >>> >>> Chuck (a LENR replicator) received his Popper Kit from John. It contains >>> 15 pages of design/build notes and has a signal generator to drive 2 >>> included spark coils. >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lFt_q69dxk&feature=plcp >>> >>> Bob Rohner has also produced a few new movies, one warning of the >>> potential dangers of building a popper.. another showing the system running >>> without a coil, dispelling the thought that the coil could be the source of >>> the force, showing that compressed air is not used. >>> http://www.rohnermachine.com/pagedocuments.html >>> https://www.youtube.com/user/bjrohner?feature=g-user-u >>> >>> All very interesting, but a lot of power is going in (300 joules?) so a >>> lot of work, luck, and miracles may still be needed. >>> >>> - Brad >>> >>> >>> >> >
