If shockwave production is central to the Papp reaction, it may be possible to build a Papp generator without the need for a piston.
Here is my reasoning: When the spark fires, a shock wave will form, expand, and travel down the length of the tube. This wave is comprised of a shockwave front of both electrons and ions. The electrons will move down the tube far faster than the positive protons because they are 2000 times lighter. This shockwave will produce a large electric current along the axis of the tube parallel to its length. This flow of electrons will produce a huge magnetic field that will be emanated accorting to the right hand rule with the thumb pointing in the direction of shockwave travel. The magnetic field will circle the circumference of the tube and be oriented parallel to it. A network of a large number of thin copper wires can be arrayed along the length of the tube on its outside surface and parallel to its length direction, which also happens to be the direction of travel of the shockwave. The end of each element of this multi-wire mesh can then be connected at the ends of each of these equally long elements to a common connector at two opposing junctions just beyond each end of the tube. This mesh of parallel wires can now convert the rapidly changing magnetic flux as it expands and contracts to electric power that can be rectified and stored in capacitors. This power generated my the mesh can be added to the feedback power produced by plasma collapse of the shockwave that is usually found in Papp engines. If the mesh of wires is thick enough, all the rapidly changing magnetic flux lines can be converted to electricity at maximum efficiency without the need for any mechanical moving parts. Additionally from the perspective of experimentation, if magnetic field lines can be detected when the Papp engine is fired, the production of a shockwave will be both verified and quantified. Cheers: Axil On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM, ecat builder <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Vortex, > > Some updates on Papp development.. Which most of you know is a noble gas > that is charged (by RF/spark) and drives a piston with an unexplained (?) > force. Harvesting the force and residual energy to produce overunity power > remains to be seen. > > http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:Plasma_Energy_Controls_Plasma_Expansion_Motor > > > > An open source Papp Engine based on Bob's design is being built by a 26 yr > old whiz named Russ. > He has made great progress in just a few weeks-- a cylinder based on Bob's > test unit, spark generator, gas system, and more. > I'm sure he'll be looking for ideas on how to mix and test noble gas > mixtures. > > http://rwgresearch.com/ > https://www.youtube.com/user/rwg42985?feature=g-user-u > http://www.open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=659 > Bob is chiming in with feedback, which is great to see. The forum is at 12 > pages and is filled with interesting tidbits. > > > Here is a (self-taught?) Dannel Roberts and his visit to Bob's shop. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_zWJNyoFgJM > Starting at 22:40 is Robert's theory of how the Papp engine creates a > bang... > > > Chuck (a LENR replicator) received his Popper Kit from John. It contains > 15 pages of design/build notes and has a signal generator to drive 2 > included spark coils. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lFt_q69dxk&feature=plcp > > Bob Rohner has also produced a few new movies, one warning of the > potential dangers of building a popper.. another showing the system running > without a coil, dispelling the thought that the coil could be the source of > the force, showing that compressed air is not used. > http://www.rohnermachine.com/pagedocuments.html > https://www.youtube.com/user/bjrohner?feature=g-user-u > > All very interesting, but a lot of power is going in (300 joules?) so a > lot of work, luck, and miracles may still be needed. > > - Brad > > >
