Citation from a Dutch patent that could also be applicable to Constantaan: "The oxide of the more noble metal may be, in general, by treatment with hydrogen at elevated temperature to some extent be reduced. The oxide of the less noble metal reacts not with hydrogen, even at highly elevated temperatureno Hydrogen is ais hydrogen atoms contained in the alloy. As a result, dissociation of gaseous molecular hydrogen requires for absorption in the Iegering. Now it is possible that during thermal treating the oxide of the less noble components of the alloy itself as a three-dimensional oxide of the alloy on the opperviak whey is separated off and in such a way that the surface of the alloy does not completely through the oxide is covered. In this case, dissociation of hydrogen for those parts of the surface where the more noble metal is present may occur. Migration through the surface layer to the on- 30 underlying Iegering then leads record (large amounts) hydrogen. The removal or neutralization of oxides is to 'activate' indicated."
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:10 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > That is certainly an unusual effect if it is active in Celani's device. We > know that traveling wave tubes work with electrons and electromagnetic waves > and ocean waves interact with the wind. > > The concept of a shock wave allowing some form of energy reinforcement with > the wire has interesting possibilities. I wonder if the shape of the wave > front impacting the potential outer tube microphones would reveal if > something of this nature is occurring? Your concept reminds me of the cone > shaped pattern of a sonic boom. > > I have been thinking that surface features from which the heat impulses > originate are quite small in dimension and randomly distributed around the > circumference of the wire. Another concept would be to consider some form > of mechanical resonant structure that depended upon the cross section area > of the cylinder for ultrasonic reinforcement. If we allow these ultrasonic > resonances a whole new family of possibilities emerge. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jones Beene <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 4:11 pm > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Progress from the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project > (Celani replication) > > One further thought/speculation on this. > > I was reading the other day that the “Light Gas Gun” which is a hypersonic > gun developed by the military, allows compressed hydrogen to produce > acceleration of about 5-6 km/sec. This is similar to the speed of sound in > nickel and about 4 times faster than the speed of sound in unpressurized > hydrogen. > > If one has a heated nickel wire in a pressurized H2 gas, and both have the > same (effective) speed of sound, but the gas in cooled at 90 degrees with a > radial vector to the outer wall, does this set the stage for some kind of > coherent wave effect, perhaps a travelling wave providing shock wave pulses > along the wire? > > Given the size of Celani’s reactor, and compared to a resonance wavelength > of hydrogen, (mentioned below) … hmmm… looks pretty close to 2x wave, no? > > IOW there could be a lot going on here, that even Celani did not realize… > > ______________________________ > _______________ > > FWIW: The Energetics Paper, recently discussed, shows the > “burst effect” from ultrasound in much greater emphasis. But we expect it > there. It is not impossible that ultrasound, or something akin to it, is > also involved in Celani, even though his experiment is gas phase. > > There could be a surface effect on the charged wire - which > is similar to ultrasound. > > Since there was no audible signature from the start > (apparently) there has been no reason for Celani to look for “inadvertent > ultrasound”, but … hey… it could be worth a look. > > According to Wiki: “Ultrasound devices operate with > frequencies from 20 kHz up to several gigahertz.” Kinda muddles the > distinction between RF and ultrasound, no?. > > Don’t forget the famous 21 cm line of hydrogen … It would be > within an ultrasound range, if Wiki is correct. > > > From: David Roberson . > > I find it intriguing that Celani's LENR > output seems to occur in the form of many individual bursts while most of my > earlier thoughts had been that the material behaved according to some larger > scaled system. > >
