On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Harry Veeder > > "According to Robin reduced-mass neutrons can form spontaneously, but > rarely, when an electron is captured by a nucleus. Would it be possible to > exchange the seven miracles for one miracle of a reduced-mass neutron from a > free electron and free proton/deuteron?" > > Unfortunately, it is not that simple and may still involve three or four > miracles; at least when the target nucleus is stable and does not decay by > EC. Hydrogen and deuterium are stable and cannot decay by EC. Nickel is not > known to undergo EC either. The electron capture alone would be one miracle, > but it would not be enough. > > As for outright capture of an electron by any nucleus having a transmutation > effect, you must realize that the proton consists of three quarks, like the > neutron - but NOT the same three. This is why EC alone is not enough to > change a proton into a neutron. > > One of the quarks must be replaced for the change to occur. An electron > anti-neutrino in combination with the electron is one way this can be done, > and that is one of W-L's seven miracles. This is due to conservation of > baryon number and other details, which are above my pay grade to explain. > Baryon number is conserved in the interactions of the Standard Model, so > violation of that would require another miracle, equivalent to conservation > of energy.
> The neutron consists of two down-quarks and one up-quark with heavier > charge, and the decay of one of the down quarks into a lighter up quark can > be achieved by the interaction of a W boson but that does not normally > happen the other way. This means the neutron decays into a proton (which > contains one down and two up quarks), an electron, and an electron > antineutrino. The reverse can happen, but not without the neutrino. > Neutrinos are seldom absorbed by matter. In an LENR cell, a few neutrino > absorptions per year could be expected. That is the third or fourth miracle. > I lost count. > > Miracles do happen, and the Standard Model can change if and when this is > proved; and maybe three interconnected miracles can happen at once to change > the model, due to some factor which is yet unknown. Seven is a long way > beyond the pale, all the way to Tipperary. > > … especially the last one - about gammas being ~100% downshifted to IR. > ROTFL. > The standard model, I assume, is predicated on the conviction that QM is correct and also necessary. It is felt necessary because it explains the apparent stability of matter which CM could not do. However, the belief that it necessary comes at a cost. It leads to the standard model which teaches that elemental transformations either require tremendous force to bring about, or where they do occur spontaneously in radioactive materials, those materials become prized commodities like exotic animals or slaves. >From the perspective of classical physics electrons naturally spiral into the nucleus. Traditionally this is a regarded as fatal flaw, but sometimes a flaw can be desirable. The lattice lets the loaded hydrogen express some classic "shortcomings". Harry
